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Tinkerbell - серый попугай свободного летания (Тaiwan)

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Рассказ влюбленности меня и моего Tinkerbell, попыгая свободно летания африканского серого, по мере того как мы кочевали о горах и пущах и городах taiwan. Она любит пойти ехать с мной на motorscooter по мере того как она сидит на окуне на штанге ручки. Детальные описания тренировки, котор мы сделали совместно и проводка я конструировал для ее находится в ее webpage документированном с сотниами фотоих. Это будет legacy счастливых времен, котор мы имели. Знание, котор дали свободно и предназначенные к более лучшему прожитию всех fids и их parronts http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9

 

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Shanlung
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9

 

 

 

A love story of me and my Tinkerbell, a free flying african grey parrot , as we roamed about the mountains and forests and cities of Taiwan. She loves to go riding with me on the motorscooter as she sit on a perch on the handle bar.

 

Full details of the training we did together and the harness that I designed for her are in her webpage documented with hundreds of photos.

 

This is the legacy of the happy times we had. The knowledge given freely and dedicated to a better living of all fids and their parronts

 

http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Shanlung
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9

 

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shanlung

Показанные фотоснимки от серии других фотоснимок.

 

Я включил URLs куда те фотоснимки пришли от. Если вы наслаждаетесь фотоснимками, то вы можете полюбить увидеть остальнои их.

 


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Tinkerbell - Reunion

 

http://community.webshots.com/album/193177124srfoNO/2

 


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Tinkerbell at pavilion beyond Dragon Eye
http://community.webshots.com/album/142714916inIrEc

 


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Tinkerbell at Green Island Taiwan
http://community.webshots.com/album/183120264DSTmOt

 

 

 

 

 

The photographs shown are from a series of other photographs.

 

I included the URLs where those photographs came from. If you enjoy the photographs, you may like to see the rest of them.

 

PHOTOGRAPH

 

Tinkerbell - Reunion

 

http://community.webshots.com/album/193177124srfoNO/2

 


PHOTOGRAPH

 

Tinkerbell at pavilion beyond Dragon Eye
http://community.webshots.com/album/142714916inIrEc

 


PHOTOGRAPH

 

Tinkerbell at Green Island Taiwan
http://community.webshots.com/album/183120264DSTmOt

 


Warmest regards

 

Shanlung
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9[/img]

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Linden2

Cool photos!!!
Thanks for sharing!!! Your parrot is perfect! :beer:

 

(Emily? с модератором не спорят :D)

 

"прикольные фотки, спасибо, что показали!!! Твой попугай идеален!:beer:"

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Emily

Linden2, и по-русски пожалуйста, продублируйте. Мы все-так в ру-нете.

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shanlung

Linden2, Emily и другие русские друзья,
:D:D:D

 

Я счастлив вы насладилось теми фотоснимками. Будут сотниы больше.

 

Вы можете насладиться even more я писал описывать случаи, тренирующ который водит к тем фотоснимкам.

 

Если любое может ввести хороший свободно english to russian язык переводя средство программирования, то я буду счастлив установить то в webpage Tinkerbell's. То поможет много других русских.

 


Shanlung

 

http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9

 

 

 


Linden2 , Emily and other russian friends,

 

I am happy you enjoyed those photographs. There are hundreds more.

 

You may enjoy even more what I have written describing the events, training that lead to those photographs.

 

If anyone can introduce a good free english to russian language translating software, I will be happy to place that into Tinkerbell's webpage. That will help many other russians.

 

Shanlung

 

http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9[/url]

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shanlung

Здравствулте! George,

 

Вы для ваших гостеприимсва и интереса в я пытаюсь сделать.

 

пишите на леты в мире попыгая английского языка. Я хотел достигнуть вне к другим любовникам попыгая не могут использовать английскую язык. Не легко использовать переводчика. Но когда я поговорить в испанском языке, и немец, и китаец, и японец, я счастлив я имеет переводчика.

 

Но этим письмом, котор я буду сочинительством будет слишком длинне и комплексы для меня для того чтобы перевести здесь. Мои русские друзья, я огорченн. Я испуган переводчик, котор я использую не хорош достаточно.

 

Но сделать вами весь смех, я сделаю некоторый перевод здесь с переводом altavista.

 

Вы можете иметь более лучший переводчика, котор нужно использовать вместо сделать остальнои перевода.

 

Я делаю с Tinkerbell опасны и должно быть сделано очень опаслив. Если я не говорю к вам сразу, то может быть длинним временем прежде чем вы знаете этого нового метода. То почему я пытаюсь достигнуть вне к вам и другим не могут поговорить английскую язык.

 


Hello George,

 

Thank you for your welcome and interest in what I am trying to do.

 


I have been writing for years in the English language parrot world. I wanted to reach out to other parrot lovers who may not use English. It is not easy to use translator. But when I need to talk in Spanish, and German, and Chinese, and Japanese, I am happy I have a translator.

 

But this letter I am writing is too long and complex for me to translate here. My Russian friends, I am sorry. I am afraid the translator I am using is not good enough.

 

But to make you all laugh, I will do some translation here with altavista translation.

 

You may have better translator to use instead to do the rest of the translation.

 

What I do with Tinkerbell is dangerous and must be done very cautiously. If I do not talk to you directly, it may be a long time before you know of this new method. That is why I try to reach out to you and others who may not speak English.

 


Tinkerbell goes out with me all the time, almost everyday, in her harness I designed after finding that those commercially obtained from the net are so terrible in their basic fundamental design.

 

Or again, there may be designed for clipped parrots but even then, they have fatal flaws in their design.

 

Tinkerbell was about 4-5 months old when she came to me. She stayed with me for about 3 years.

 

 

 

I made it a point to document all the training and mistakes I made so you never need to make those mistakes.

 

 

 

I rather believe that good training and bonding must eventually replace the clipping of wings on all our birds.

 


The relationship between me and Tinkerbell have been one of equal standing even if she thinks she is superior to me. If you decide that you are ' the one to be obeyed' and they are 'the one that must obey you', you set the tone that your relationship with them will never be one of friendship. The warmness of a richer relationship will never be yours ever to follow.

 

You know that you get what you put in, such as sport or golf or darts. That is between you and an inanimate object. How much more it will be when that object is an incredibly intelligent creature such as your bird who can and will respond and build up on the relationship that you are reaching out to him/her (I never can call animals it).

 


I used clicker training on Tinkerbell and on my cat and ferret. I thought I was great until I met on the internet a 14 year old boy who told us that he uses clicker training to train his gold fish to do tricks. (Instead of clicker, he uses a light to shine)

 

And before you think I am that superb, let me assure you all that there is one man I met in Taiwan that I felt my efforts were so pathetic in comparison to and who made me feel so humble and ended up very good friends. Our evening partings are normally with me staggering in a drunken state back to my hotel room.

 

You can read all about him in my written encounters with the
TsaoLing Bird Whisperer (a man who talk with birds). Read about him before you want to praise my efforts too much.

 

Unfortunately, his methods are not transferable to me or to you as we are mere mortals. What I wrote have been snapshots of those moments. I met him three times. To understand fully the extent of that Bird
Whisperer of Tsaoling, read my initial meeting with him, then the Tsaoling BW revisited and Tsaoling 2 bottles of Drambuie. You can see within the short time span of my visits, he trained additional wild birds to be at his beck and call.

 

Some other readers felt that I wrote rather mystically of my methods. To me it is nothing mystical, and more a different outlook and mindset. What I have done can be done by you. WHat that Tsaoling BW does is beyond my comprehension all together.

 

As to what tricks Tinkerbell does, I really do not know. You see, the tricks I taught him was accidental, coming about more from an effort to keep her mentally challenged to retain her interests. I touched on that now and then in the letters as and when they occured as I never did classified that as tricks.

 

I was one of the earlier members of free flight group, a group of parrot lovers who consider allowing parrots to fly at home. Two years ago, I was the first who searched for a huge empty office space to take Tinkerbell out of just the small house environment to let her fly and documented that (and my mistakes) for the general public. Two years later, other members of that freeflight group (already leaders of all that want to have flighted parrots) decided to do that as well.

 

While we need the guidance of others, there come a time when one must strike out on your own. During a long ride up the Taiwan mountains after my disasterous totally free flight attempt with Tink, I decided I needed to take a new road where our fids can join us on harness. I did not realise I was going to be the pioneer as well. That is good and bad. I needed to clear more misconceptions than I ever imagined. People who never flown parrots or used harnesses (I suspect they never know what is a harness) seemed to be a much better expert on what they do not know. I feel sorry for them.

 

We need to expose our parrot to new conditions, strong shifty winds, let them know what is flying high and flying from high to low, impossible to duplicate in enclosed areas. That is when I parted from freeflight group. Now two years later, many of them agree with me now. With a good proper harness, Tinkerbell comes out with me almost everyday and get exposed and familiarised with all different conditions. After the initial jitteriness, she showed she relished new changes. You can see for yourself the series of photos as we rode through towns and forests and the way she looked at the surroundings. She flew with me in force 7 conditions when I had to lean into the wind. She saw the sun and clouds and the stars and twinkling fire flies with me at night. Deep in the forests or on the mountain tops where one can look and see forever in the distance. What that does to her mind, you will agree is a lot more than if she sees only the four walls of the apartment.

 

I wrote a lot on the training, how to do the training in the emails/articles in the webpage. I was just re-reading the introduction I wrote in that webpage. That contains so much more of the fundamentals as they were so much more immediate to me that time then now, and essential even before you think of starting clicker training.

 

For me to talk on those matters now, I can at best only gloss over them and the essential details may well be overlooked and left out by me now. It is in your best interests to read those earlier letters. Some are much shorter than the intro. But then some are much longer.

 


Of course, if you want to raise any points of what I have written and if I can answer, I will do my best.

 

If you find http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9 to be interesting and useful, please send it on to your friends who may be interested.
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ShanLung

 

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shanlung

To all my friends across the world.

 

There are two main groups. The first group are those that I was writing to when I was with Tinkerbell and who knew me for years. The other group are my recent friends including non-English speaking friends from Russia, Germany, France, Spain, Japan, and Chinese from Taiwan and China. This email will be going to both groups. For the sake of translation, I will try
to keep my sentences short.

 

To that first group, I must say sorry for having left you in silence for such a long time. I have found it too painful to write to you after my separation from
Tinkerbell.

 

I did write again to let you people know I was safe during the tsunami on 12/26. I thank you all for writing and I read all the letters even though I did
not answer at that time.

 

Let me make amends now and you may understand better why I was silent.

 

My contract in Taiwan came to an end on 14 Oct 2004 and I had to leave Tinkerbell with my Taiwanese friend and his family. I still hope to be back in Taiwan again even as the plane brought me and my wife to Singapore.

 

As to how much animals bond with humans, I have to tell you of Ivan my cat. Ivan was a kitten in 1997 when he was rescued to live with us in Hong Kong. I have mentioned in a group that Ivan appeared to be psychic. You may like to read of that in
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/ivan1.html

 

In those days, they did not have the scare of avian flu or new diseases. When we had to return to Singapore, it was easy enough to bring Ivan back with us. Ivan did not join us when we went to Taiwan as we did not wish to suhject him to a 3 month quarantine. I do love Ivan very much.

 

Ivan was kept by my mother-in-law in a big enclosure with other cats. In the brief sporadic visits back, Ivan seemed to ignore me.

 

A few days after we got back to our apartment in Singapore, Ivan was brought back to me by Joy's mother. After 4 years of being apart from me, I
thought he may have forgotten me.

 

I first heard him screaming and calling from his carrier cage as he was brought to the apartment. When the cage door was opened, Ivan came out, look very intensely at me and screamed and meowed even louder
for at least a minute.

 

Ivan then looked away from me to the nearby table and was quiet. I thought that with all that strange screaming, perhaps he remembered me after all. I was a bit disappointed that he did not purr and do his figure of 8 curling and rubbing on my ankles.

 

What he did next was something he never did before. Ivan jumped up to the table next to me and leapt immediately up from the table to my shoulder. He then curled himself around my neck, and continued that screaming right into my ear while rubbing and rubbing his head on my cheek and ear. He remained on my shoulder and refused to be taken off.

 

http://community.webshots.com/user/shimmertje in the
Halftail album

 

When I had to leave Tinkerbell, some of you wrote to assure me she will remember me. After this demonstration from Ivan, I do know for sure that none of the animals that we are close to will ever forget us. I was tremendously touched by Ivan.

 

As I do not feel Singapore to be a place I can call my home even though I was born here. It claimed to be democratic having regular elections. Elections are also regularly hold in pre Saddam Iraq, North Korea and Cuba. Many people here do not wish to ever retire in Singapore. I share such sentiments. But now as Singapore will not allow me to bring back Tinkerbell,
this place will never be my home.

 

In mid Nov, I was so delighted to receive a phone call from Taipei to be prepared to return to Taiwan on a new contract. I wanted nothing more in my life than that. I was already thinking of chapter 2 with Tinkerbell and how to write and let you all know. But a week after that phone call, I was told the contract price was arbitarily cut and that cut fell on my department.

 

That was painful. For a couple of weeks after that, I was in a daze.

 

Life have to go on.I thought of going for a scuba diving holiday in Thailand and then on to Laos. (I am a qualified PADI Rescue Diver).

 

A childhood friend was planning to go to Kuching, Borneo and wanted me and Joy to join him there.

 

When I was in Taiwan, I have seen many small orang hutans (this is a malay term translating directly to man forest) kept in tiny cages in restaurants to
attract customers. I have wanted to see them in the wilds. When in Taiwan, I also saw the Rhinocerous Hornbills in a park with their wings clipped. Those
are big and beautiful birds that I also wanted to see.

 


With the strong persuasion from my good friend, I changed my plans and was in Borneo instead. That was where I wrote to you from to let you know I was safe.

 

Joy and I went to the Semenggoh center for orang hutans rehabilitation.
http://www.cuti.com.my/Sub/Sarawak/guide_semenggoh.htm

 

This is an old center and all the orang hutans are already released into the forest. However, they have supplementary feedings at 9 am and 3 pm. If the orang hutans cannot find sufficient food, they will turn up for the supplementary feedings. We were told that there may be a dozen or more.

 

In our first day at Semenggoh during the 3 pm feeding, we saw a small orang hutan. She was high up in the tree top slowly moving about. She did not come down. I was happy even if I saw her at a distance. At least
this time it was in the wild. I seen too many of them chained and caged and it felt majestic to see even one orang hutan in the wild.

 

I sincerely hope that the other orang hutans integrated themselves back into the wild. Semenggoh center is surrounded by villages and plantations. Even
though that great ape is under total protection, it may be possible that some may be killed.

 

I was disappointed on the hornbills. They are huge birds with a beautiful horn.
http://orientalbirdimages.org/birdimages.p...rd_Family_ID=70

 

I never expect to see them close. I kept my eyes and ears for them. I was very disappointed not to see a single hornbill. They were supposed to be very common in Borneo. It is a tragedy if the hornbills are found
only in zoos.

 

We planned to go up river and deeper into the forests. That was when we got news of the tsunami. Some of you were worried enough to write directly to me when I wrote to all the groups to let you know we were safe
in Borneo.

 

All our plans changed after that. In the face of that tragedy, I did not wish to continue with our travels.

 

You may like to see and read of that trip. My wife Joy invites all of you to
Pictures of Kuching at
http://public.fotki.com/shimmertje

 

Account of the Kuching trip at
http://www.worldisround.com/home/shimmertje/index.html

 

For a few weeks after that even after we returned to Singapore, the news of tsunami and its victims kept me on the CNN and BBC.

 

I read all the letters you wrote me that time and I am touched. But I just could not reply at all. It was still kind of painful to write to the groups I was in
for years. After looking at all those devastation and the troubles of other people, my problems seem more mundane.

 

I decided to reach out to non English speaking parrot lovers as I felt the lessons and knowledge I learned may be appreciated by them as well. In my discussions with them, I realised that while I wrote in detail, that will not be sufficient for them to do what I have done with Tinkerbell.

 

Over the next few weeks, I will be writing more.

 

I have stayed in touch with Mr Yu who is looking after Tinkerbell in Taiwan. He also wrote to me after that tsunami and I called him on the phone to let him know we were safe, and to talk to Tink.

 

I last spoke to him a few days ago and to Tinkerbell too. He told me Tinkerbell will get excited when he talks to me. Then when the phone is given to her, she will remain very still as she hears me. He send me some photographs taken of her around mid January 2005.

 

You can see that in the folder below. Tinkerbell still looks beautiful to me. You can see the state of her health.

 

Tinkerbell and Yu family

 

http://community.webshots.com/album/266245549kjbdKy

 

Just two days ago, I was checking my camera and found some photographs taken during my last few days in Taiwan. I did not realise until I saw those
photographs that Joy caught the handover of Tinkerbell to Mr Yu on that 13 Oct that I wrote about.

 

Tinkerbell - Last days and handover
http://community.webshots.com/album/266246996HQjfld

 

There is another album that perhaps you may like to see. I was at a friend's house recently. You may like to see me with Black Palm and Moluccan cockatoos and other parrots that he kept. I stayed clear of them for a while to let them get used to me. I talked to them. I then knew that they liked me. Luckily I was right. They got huge beaks.

 

Friend's parrots and 2s
http://community.webshots.com/album/247421104ZXMpJM

 

My friends, I will be going to Laos and Thailand over the next two months. I rather be out of Singapore then be in Singapore.

 

On Sunday 6 Feb, I will be flying off to Bangkok and making my way into Laos. Eventually, in some internet cafe somewhere, I will be reading all your letters to me and continue my writings on the care and training.

 


Shanlung

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George

Hi shanlung,

 

It was just in the past few days that I had some time to take a look at some of your photos - and I must tell you that I am very impressed!

 

Frankly speaking you are the first person I've ever "met" that has put out almost all his life on the Internet in the form of photos and stories - but it is definitely an interesting life and you must be a very interesting person. I have not seen even 10% of your photos, but that is my feeling I am already getting after having seen that little.

 

I regret very much that you had to part with Tinkerbell and do hope that sooner or later you will be together with her again.

 

Unfortunately most of us in most parts of Russia cannot copy your bird-handling simply because of completely different climate conditions and a totally different way of life - so looking at your photos I can only envy you and fancy that in my next life :-) I'll be born in Singapore or Thailand (I have been in both). In Moscow where I live we have only maybe 4 warm months per year with temperatures some days above and some days below 20 degrees Centigrade. Today we have lots of snow everywhere and are freezing out when outdoors as it is MINUS 20 degrees Centigrade.

 

I wish you a good flight to Bangkok and a pleasant stay in Thailand and Laos.

 

Please keep us posted - and I hope that some of us will be writing back to you, and those who won't because of the language barrier will at least have a chance to enjoy you photos and an opportunity to look into your so different from theirs life.

 

By the way, it may be interesting for you to know that "shanlung" sounds in Russian very much like "shalun" (шалун), which means "a good naughty boy" :-)).

 

Best regards,

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shanlung

George,

 

Thank you.

 

I am priviledged to know Tinkerbell even for a short period. Of course, I wish I could be with her for a longer time. I hope in future I will be back together with her.

 

I know many of us by our circumstances may not be able to allow our parrots to fly. Taking a parrot out in -20 C is not a good idea.

 

As long as we all love our parrots and take care of their emotional needs in addition to their physical needs, that will lead to even greater happiness for all.

 

Warmest regards

 

Shanlung

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Helen T

shanlung,

 

It's pleasant to read the story of your relationships with Tinkerbell . It's real love story on the eve of St. Valentine's Day :) ...

 

Indisputably your Tinkerbell is a happy bird . Your photos are delightful and vivid . It seems to me I hear the sound of her flight :) ...

 

The name of your "winged Mistress" :) is unusual and poetic . But why Tinkerbell ? Why not Silverbell , for example ?

 

I wish you a long inspired friendship , a lot of new trips and flights ...

 

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Best regards ,

 

Elena Turzhevskaya .

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shanlung

Elena,

 

Tinkerbell flies, just like the Tinkerbell with Peter Pan. I did not have to think of that name. When I first saw her and knew she was mine, I saw her name immediatly inside my heart. There can be no other name for her

 

 

 


10 Feb. 05

 

From a cybercafe in VangVieng Laos. Just reached into
town this afternoon from Vientiene. Evening time now
after a nice stroll by and in a shallow river with
crystal clear water. The sight of the jagged Kartz
type of limestone hills just breathtaking across the
river.

 


To all English and non English groups

 

Tinkerbell Legacy - Having a flying parrot - Ranting
01

 

I presume at this stage you do want to keep a flying
parrot at home with you. Even if you do have a
clipped parrot now, you are interested in this
possibility.

 

Not all people will be able to keep flying parrots
with them at home. I am not speaking of making an
aviary outside the home. This is about keeping a
flying parrot with you at home. This is of supreme
importance to the bonding that you will make with her
and to the training that you will be doing together

 

I am speaking from my experiences with Tinkerbell. I
will refer her. This may not apply to your parrot.
Even if you have a Congo African Grey, the temperament
of parrots may be different. Their background and
history may be different requiring a different
approach. I hope my experiences may be of use to you.

 

The last couple of weeks, I have been trying to set up
a framework so I can write systematically.
Unfortunately, much of the topics are so inter
connected. I cannot write on one matter without
drawing from experiences from another matter. So I
give up and will just be writing free hand and without
structure. Let us see how it goes like. Your
suggestions warmly welcomed.

 


There are many articles in the Internet in addition to
what I have written as to why it is much better and
healthier that your parrot be allowed to fly.

 

You can use
http://www.shynefoundation.org/articles.html to start
with.

 


You should also join the free flight group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/

 


You MUST know more about clicker training. I will
talk more on this later. You can get more information
from two very good groups on clicker training for
parrots.

 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/clickbirds

 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bird-Click

 


We need to be realistic with ourselves. What we are
doing is a long term approach as we come to terms with
living with a flying parrot. However, we do change
with time. What seems to be difficult to do in the
beginning will be a matter of routine later on.

 

Let us consider first the home environment.

 

The safety and the security of our parrots will be the
paramount importance. In this matter, I refer to both
clipped and unclipped birds. Too many people felt that
by clipping the wings, their parrots will not be able
to fly away. Even if the clipped parrot will not
normally fly, they have not seen what a frightened
parrot is capable of. If the parrot is badly
frightened, that parrot will fly out of the house.

 

You must ensure total security of the flight envelope
at home, the space that she is allowed to fly in.
That if she is allowed out of the cage that she is
normally kept in, she will not be able to get outside
the area.

 

When I was in Taiwan, mosquitoes give us a lot of
problems. All apartments I was living in, and all
apartments and houses that I visited have mosquito
screens covering all windows and external doors. I
presume if you are living in areas where diseases can
be spread by mosquitoes, it is in your interest that
you have your exterior perimeter of your house or
apartment screened.

 

Do a safety check and ensure the sliding window screen
do not open. One morning I woke up to see a window
screen blown opened. I turned my head to see
Tinkerbell's cage door opened without Tinkerbell
inside (that was during the earlier days when she
slept in a locked cage). I nearly fainted thinking
Tinkerbell flown away until I noticed she was in a
corner of another room.

 

That screen was permanently sealed shut with duct
tapes to prevent it ever sliding open again. That was
done to all screens covering the window. I smoke at
home and it was important the screens must never be
opened as windows are left opened.

 

I also made all doors to be automatically self closing
with counterweights and strings and hooks.

 

I had no worries about the front door. The front door
open to a sealed corridor and lift lobby. But if the
front door open directly to outside, I would have hung
a curtian of linked chains that would automatically
prevent a bird from flying through. This linked chain
curtains can also be used to restrict your parrot from
flying into other rooms such as kitchen. Such
curtains must be used together with your close
observation of the bird.

 

If you can have a secure perimeter that your parrot
cannot fly away from you, you can keep a flying
parrot. For those with clipped parrots, this secure
perimeter is also very important for you.

 

It is a fallicy to assume your clipped parrot can only
glide and not fly. You never tested your clipped
parrot under spooked (intense fear) conditions. You
never know how much strength a spooked parrot is
capable of. I have seen that !

 

Within that flight area, you must check and ensure
that it is safe for your parrot. All toilet lids are
to be kept closed. Even better still is to ensure all
toilet and bathroom doors are always closed in
addition as well. You must get into the habit of
double security.

 

When cooking needs to be done with open pots of
boiling water, I place Tinkerbell back into the cage
until things are completed and the environment safe to
let her out again.

 


The most important factor is that you must have a
sense of humour. If you do not have a sense of humour
and can laugh at yourself, keeping a flying parrot
will become a nightmare for you. Our parrots have a
very wierd sense of humour. That can be very
enchanting and you will learn to laugh.

 

If you are those who need order and tidiness at home,
keeping a flying parrot at home will make you tolerate
and accept some disorder.

 

If you are untidy (like me), you will learn to be more
tidy and store things that must be stored to the best
of your ability.

 

You can take it as Gospel truth that you cannot make a
flying parrot ever to do what she do not wish to do.

 

The trick is to make the things that she likes to do
to be what you want her to do in the first place.

 

That training and how to live with a flying parrot in
the same home will be the next rantings.

 

Warmest regards

 

Shanlung

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Emily, перевёл, как обещал:

 

Выдержки из последнего сообщения Shanlung:

 

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Не стоит считать, что попугаи с подрезанными крыльями не могут улететь – при сильном испуге улетят легко.

 

Поэтому в квартире необходимо полностью исключить возможности для попугаев её покинуть. Все раздвижные окна или их антимоскитные секции должны быть закреплены во избежание случайного открывания, например, порывом ветра.

 

Лучше сделать все двери автоматически закрывающимися – например, с помощью противовесов.

 

На входную дверь, если за ней нет замкнутого пространства, и на дверь кухни (или проём в кухню) лучше повесить цепочные занавески, чтобы предотвратить неожиданный сквозной пролёт. При использовании таких занавесок за птицей требуется наблюдение.

Помните, что птица в стрессовой ситуации даже подрезанными крыльями может развить подъёмную силу вполне достаточную для довольно дальнего полёта.

 

При свободно перемещающейся по квартире птице не забывайте и про другие меры безопасности: крышку утитаза, например, лучше держать опущенной, а ещё лучше держать двери в ванну и туалет всегда закрытыми.

 

При приготовлении пищи в открытых кастрюлях или сковородках необходимо позаботиться о том, чтобы ни при каких обстоятельствах птиц не могла влететь в кухню и приземлится на сковородку или упасть в кастрюлю.

 

Если Вы чистюля и хотите держать свободно летающего попугая, Вам лучше заранее смириться с некоторым беспорядком.

 

Если при свободно летающем попугае Вы неряха, то Вам придётся призвать себя к порядку и научиться правильно хранить дорогие Вам вещи.

 

И как непреложную истину надо запомнить, что невозможно заставить попугая делать то, что он не хочет – поэтому лучше всего сделать так, чтобы то, что попугай хочет делать, было бы тем, что Вы хотите, чтобы он сделал в первую очередь.

 

Советы по совместному проживанию со свободно летающим попугаем и его обучению будут даны в следующий раз.

 

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George, спасибо.

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Today is evening of 24 Feb and I am in Luang Prabang.

 

The internet in VangVieng was so bad and slow that I gave up
trying to send below to you.

 

The internet speed in Luang Prabang is much faster and the computers
in the cybercafe are much better too.

 

Thank you again George for the earlier translation

 

 

 

Saturday, February 12th, 2005
Tinkerbell Legacy - Ranting 02
Tinkerbell Legacy - Having a flying parrot - Ranting
02

 

Started on evening 11 Feb 05 in cybercafe somewhere in
VangVieng.

 

Yesterday when I got here, I moved into the most
expensive place because I was tired and liked some
luxury. It cost 22USD, and worth 3 times more.

 

Today feeling a lot better, I moved into a 4 USD
lovely local kind of bungalow deciding to be closer to
nature and just across the river and 700 meters
further from town. Crossed by a bamboo and plank
bridge and about 80 meters long and wobbles when you
walked on it.

 

Then this evening in my room that I suddenly thought
of the absence of TV and BBC and CNN. A crescendo of
sounds hit me from outside the hut. At least 6
different kind of frog calls tried to compete with 2
geckos and lots of insect calls.

 

Cost by being close to nature is that to reach the
internet cafe, I got to walk lighted up by the tinest
crescent of moon and lights from all the stars. Yes,
the bridge gets more wobbly at night.

 

12 Feb

 

Rented a motorbike for 5 usd to ride around a bit.
Vang Vieng area is charming, rustic and more beautiful
than I thought. I think I will stay on a few more
days.

 

Then in the evening when hack in town, saw a local pet
parrot with wings clipped and hanging out on a string
of fairy lights around a short column. She is small,
looks like a ringneck but the head is purplish with a
green body. Tail was badly plucked. This must be a
local Laotian parrot.

 

She moved away from me as I approached. So I bought a
banana pancake, stood next the the parrot and started
to eat. She came down and was fed bits of banana and
pancake. She then allowed me to give her head rubs
and beak rubs.

 

She ate her fill and then moved up out of my reach.
And here I am in another cybercafe to continue.

 

 

 

Tinkerbell Legacy - Having a flying parrot - Ranting
02

 

If there are some areas in your mutual living space
that you do not like her to go to, you need to create
areas that you like her to go to and that she likes
too.

 

Within the flight area at home, you should provide for
several perches and areas that she can play in. That
will be the areas that she will normally do her toilet
in. I had a parrot tower. There are perches I made
for her. I placed rattan baskets with iron chains to
weigh the basket down. The perch she loved the most
was the very wobbly rattan cirle suspended by a rope.
She would fly off this perch making it spin and land
back on the spinning circle. It is strange the first
and cheapest simplest perch I made for her was the one
she most loved.

 

If you have to chase her away, there must be a few
places she can fly off to. You also train into her to
fly to those alternate areas on cue. I talk on this
after I get into clicker training.

 

Then, if necessary, divert her away from some areas
that you do not want her to go to.

 

You must have bought some toys that she absolutely
hated and kept that away. Rejoice in your good
fortune. Those same toys will act as voodoo charm to
ward her away from places she should not go to. I had
a rotating floor mounted fan that she went to once. It
was totally grilled but she shitted. I did not wanted
a second time.

 

One of the doll she feared was placed on that fan. A
little stuffed cartoon dinosaur kept Tinkerbell away.

 

Little candy stripped hula hoops, little sashimi
bamboo roll mats were placed at forbiddened areas.

 

If eventually she got over her fear, you just have to
find new things that she does not like to keep her
away from those areas.

 

Continued 12 Feb

 

There may be some areas that you tolerate her to be
on. Sometimes when you have the energy, you chase her
away from those areas. Sometimes, you pretend that you
did not see her there.

 

Please do not misunderstand that the parrot is always
trying to go to forbidden places. Most of the time,
she remained at her play areas. She may fly from one
to another play areas. In most cases, she will fly to
me when I call (recall training after I talk on
clicker training). She may decide to fly to me even
though not called. I try to be tolerant of that. If
she is your friend, is it not all right for her to
come to you when she felt like it? Is your friend
only able to get to you only when you want her to come
to you?

 

I allow her to come. I talk with her for a while ,
scratch her head and then ask her to fly away if I am
busy. If I am not busy and can postpone whatever I do
until later, I will play with her and allow her on my
shoulder to watch what I am doing (allowing on
shoulder is a subject to be trained for, in another
letter).

 

If she kept returning and I am very busy, she gets put
back into the cage until I am free.

 

She is not 24 hours out of the cage and flying about
all the time.

 

In the morning, we spend about an hour together before
I go to the office. She then goes into the cage. Now
and then, my wife let her out for a while. She stayed
in the cage most of the day. After work when I get
back, she is again out of the cage, with the door
opened so she can go in and out as she wanted.

 

Normally, she will then go out with me and my wife to
the park or nearby school to fly in her harness for a
while. Should we go out for dinner, she joined us
most of the time.

 

Then back in the apartment, there will be some
training and play with her. Sometimes I choose the
time. Sometimes she choose the time.

 

Then at about 1030pm to 11 pm, I dim the lights
indicating that she fly to her bedroom. She liked to
sleep in my bookshelf which I screened off. When she
go to sleep, I can cover that bookshelf and switched
on the lights again.

 

She remained in her bedroom bookshelf until she woke
up in the morning. She never shit in her bedroom.

 


The truly dangerous areas were made safe. The flight
area is not 100% safe. There are some electic wires
and cables about. She never seemed to go there. Most
of the time, she was watched as a compromise.

 

One very important point is that she did not know how
to fly when she first came to me. In the first two
weeks, I trained and trained her in 'step up' for her
to step up on my finger. If your parrot does not step
up for you on your finger, you should not consider
letting her fly yet and fly in the house. Tinkerbell
was also trained to step up on a stick.

 

This is so important that you should not demean the
'step up' in form of punishment to her. You should
not repeatedly make her do step up to punish her.

 

Your parrot must be trained to understand 'NO'. She
will understand, but may not respect that all the
time. More will be said later under training and
after I describe what I perceive of their psychology.

 

As a friend to a friend, there are acceptable and
unacceptable behaviours that you can expect from your
parrot.

 

If you do catch her in an unacceptable act, you MUST
not allow that and you must scold her immediately,
ONLY IF YOU CATCH HER IN THE ACT. If you do not see
her in the act and only saw the results later, DO NOT
SCOLD HER AT ALL.

 

If you are afraid of your parrot, she should not be
allowed to fly yet. A respect for her beak is
acceptable, but if you are afraid, that parrot must
not fly until you trained her enough AND no longer
afraid of her. More of this later on.

 

Warmest regards

 

Shanlung

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I am in Luang Prabang now and the Internet connection
is much better here with faster computers. I have
experimented with Blogging. For those interested in
my travels, please follow the blog below

 

http://www.livejournal.com/users/shanlung/2005/02/

 

You can see the little parrot I talked about in
VangVieng to be a Finsch Slaty headed parakeet that
Roberta Kendall helped indentified.

 

I will update the blog which will contain all my
rants. So if you do not hear from me as may often be
the case, go to my blog and feel free to add your
thoughts and comments.

 

 

 

Wednesday, February 23rd, 2005
6:53 pm Tinkerbell Legacy - Living with a flying parrot - Rant 03
23 Feb,

 

After a couple of lazy days, I spend today on a couple of small tours.

 

The first tour was a trip by boat up the Mekong river to Pak Ou cave 2 hours upstream with a lot of Buddhas in the complex. The river ride passed by largely forested mountains on both sides of the Mekong river. A couple of stops were made in local villages, one village specialised in making rice wine and the other in making paper.

 

In the afternoon, a minivan brought a bunch of us to a Kuangsi waterfall. We reached there after an hour on unpaved track. A tiger cub was rescued from poachers in 1999 and she lived there in an enclosure since then. I spend half an hour looking at her and thinking nice thoughts to her before I continued to the waterfall itself. It is a pretty waterfall. From about 100 meters up, the river split and divide itself into a series of tiered cascades marching down to the turquoise plunge pool. After that, the water spread out in a series of pooled terraces disappearing in the jungle beyond.

 

I got back into town and decided to continue with this.

 


Tinkerbell Legacy - Living with a flying parrot - Rant 03

 

Psychology and temperament of a parrot

 

You are aware that parrots are so individual and may have different behaviour altogether. In this part, I refer to Tinkerbell. If we are to talk about training and living together, it helps if we know the mind of our companions.

 

1. Intelligience and sense of fair play.

 

Her intelligience is staggering to me. Because she flew about with me and interacts with me, there are many incidents which indicate her intelligence to the extent I must conclude that they are sentient as well.

 

My earlier letters mentioned the way she understood the harness arrangements and the way she indicate to me how I need to improve that design. One day, I saw one of the two leash loop (the 9 inch long loops from the harness) to be out of the hook and the other leash loop inserted into the second hook (line hook). I thought that was a wierd mistake from my part until one day she (Tinkerbell at pavilion beyond Dragon Eye) took that off completely after she was extremely angry at me. I then realised that she must have got the two loops completely off and did not let me know. She was in the process of inserting the loop back but she used the wrong hook.

 

I can talk of the uncanny choice of words in the right context when she talked with me.

 

Even though she was trained to fly to me on cue and I mentioned I thought her "step up" from the beginning, that was conditional only. My son came to stay with us for a few weeks. Tinkerbell never flew or go to him. At home, I called Tinkerbell to fly to me. When she was on my shoulder, I cued her to step up and I moved to try to hand her to my son. She flew off back to my shoulder. I then asked her to step up and turned to my son. She flew off immediately to a nearby perch. I walked over to her as she refused to fly to me on cue and asked her to step up. She stepped up on my hand and when I turned to my son, she flew off immediately. She refused even to step up after that and flew to another room. I never tried to make her go to my son after that.

 

I have a squirter gun that I use to reinforce "NO" requests to her. The unwritten code is that if she stopped doing the misdeeds, I cannot shoot at her. She was biting off the buttons from a shirt. I said "NO", took the gun and pointed at her and she nicely stop chewing and was on the verge of flying back to her perch. I was feeling wicked and I pull the trigger giving her a jet of water. She looked at me as if in shock and she flew to my shoulder. Now, I mentioned she normally will go to her designated places to shit. That was taught to her by praising her when she did so at her perches. If she shit elsewhere and we caught her in the act, she will be scolded. In that way, she was toilet trained and she knew we do not like her shitting elsewhere.

 

She felt an injustice was done to her. On flying to my shoulder, she shat on me. I felt relieved as I was feeling guilty at firing at her. She then immediately flew away to my other shoulder and repeated that act , flew off and hover in front of me looking at me before going to her perch and preen. I felt so ashamed that I had to apologise to her. I never crossed that line again.

 

When we go out with her in her harness, I mentioned very often that never should the harness and leash be used to drag her or even to 'urge' her in coming to you. If she did not want to take off and fly to me, I would walk back to her, talked to her and changed the position to try again.

 

But sometimes when there was a crowd, it was so tempting to pull. When I did that, she deliberately took off, aimed at a treee, and flew around the trunk twice. She did that deliberately as the line did not even touch the tree trunk until her second loop around the trunk. She then was brought short by the line and she went round and round and round after that. At other times, she knew the obstacles and she understood enough of the line and would fly to avoid them. She knew the difference between deliberate pulling and accidents. Sometimes when I walked away laying the line, I tripped or the reel snagged and she was pulled from the perch. In all those cases, she would fly over to my shoulder.

 

Food treats are an important component of any training. However, it will be a big mistake if we think that our parrot are greedy Pavlovian robots. They do like intelligent training so that they can be with you doing things that both liked. I used to reward Tinkerbell with sunflower seeds all the time when she came to me on recall. Until one day, after she flew to me, she took the sunflower seed offered and threw that to the ground. She then turned her head in the 'head rub' posture, talked softly to me requesting for headrubs instead.

 

A parrot is no unthinking robot. If we can agree the parrot is intelligent, then it is important that they can take an active part in the training. That our training to them be modified by what they want us to do as well, that at times, they may even be training us.

 

If we assume we are there only as commanders and they as robots that must obey, or forced to obey us, we look at them to see only if they obey us or not. If we use that kind of mental approach, we will miss seeing their body languages and behaviour to the cues we give. We then only see that they did not obey without ever seeing their body language as to why they do not do so. We can try and try and try and blame everyone for the failure and never know the reasons that our parrots are trying to tell us about.

 

Such alpha wannabees can never ever have the joy and warmth of a real friendship either.

 

In having and living with a flying parrot that can never be forced, your only chance for success must be based on friendship and equality with her. Only then will you notice their body language and nuances with the clarity that will come to you.

 

 

 

2. Parrots are empaths.

 

I am convinced that parrots sensed our emotions.

 

When I got back from the office, the reaction I got from Tinkerbell will be different very much as if she knew the mood I was in. If I felt the day was bad for me, she would fly over to me and settle herself on my shoulder to preen herself or my hair or give gentle nibbles on my ear. I chill out with a drink with her on best behaviour on my shoulder.

 

If I got back with a happy mood, she would fly to me screaming at me. She then will snatch the packet of cigarettes from my pocket and fly off to top of the cupboard to tear them apart. She ignores all my "no"s. As I recognised this as a game from her, I never threatened her with the squirt gun. I chased her and she allowed herself to be caught eventually. Or she would snatched my keys , fly around looking for Halftail the cat or Zorro my ferret to divebomb them until I intervene.

 

I tried to fool her by pretending to be happy when I was not or pretending to be sad. She read me correctly at all times. Perhaps she may have seen our facial and body expressions. Perhaps she may sense the emotions at some other level.

 

This became a very important part in our interactions and training. To think of training as some Pavlovian conditionting demeans them and us.

 

When I train her and she did it well, I was happy of course. I also project mentally to her of my happiness and my words to her reflect that feeling of happiness. If she did something that is REALLY BAD, I allow anger and unhappiness to flow out of me to her. It is a mistake and I believe very confusing to parrot to be hypocritical in our actions and thoughts.

 


If you caught the parrot doing something bad that displeases you, it is very important to be honest about it to them. Sweet words and murderous thoughts will be confusing to them. Which is another reason why I mentioned earlier that if she did something bad and you did not see that act being done, you should just clean up or fix it and do not even think of it after that.

 

I am not advocating punishment or something fearful to your parrot as part of any training. Tinkerbell is not afraid of the squirt gun at all. She even love to play games with me involving the squirt gun. She would do something that she knew is 'bad' by my defination. She even called out to me "Tinkerbell is a bad girl" to let me know she was doing something bad. She knew the gun must be aimed before it is effective. She would wait until I almost aimed the gun at her before she flew off rapidly and zigzag herself out of line of fire to perch herself on top of the gun and bob at me as if it was a big game.

 

She also trained me. When she was thirsty, there were some very specific signals and calls that she wanted water. Sometimes, I failed to notice her signals especially if she was on my shoulder and I lost in thoughts on other matters. My wife would notice her signals but would keep quiet, out of her morbid curiosity as to what she would do. Tinkerbell would then nip my ear as if to call my attention, and then repeat her request for water.

 

I do not ever think she was punishing me and her nips were just to get my attention. For all I know, she may have 'borrowed' that from me into her own way of training me.

 

The relationship between Tinkerbell and me was a feisty and robust one where we screamed together in happiness and with a lot of play and laughter.

 

If your parrot is very sensitive and fearful, then you must first win their confidence with patience. This is something that you can do with clicker training that I will talk more on later. I consider all aggressive parrots to be very fearful and sensitive. I cannot imagine any parrot biting you with deliberate malice. They will give so many body signals that you may have ignored.

 

I mentioned before that you must not fear your parrot. You can respect their beak, but must never fear them. I do feel if you have fear for them, they may felt or sensed or read your fear and misunderstood your fear for them. The parrot may be even more frightened by your fear and you end up getting bitten.

 

 

 

Shanlung

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Tinkerbell Legacy - Training of Vernal Hanging Parrot Rant 05

 

At 4 pm today 28 Feb , I got back from the Plain of Jars. I should write about that,
but something else occurred today that I should write about first.

 

An hour before the tour bus brought us back to Luang Prabang, I was thinking
about the two vernal hanging parrots that I observed in Somjith guest house that
I stayed in. Later closer observations showed that one of the parrot is clipped
and cannot fly. But by climbing about on the plants and fence, I earlier thought
it could fly as well. With the other parrot flying in and out with lots of activities
between those two, I did thought both could fly.

 

Often, the clipped parrot would be in its tiny cage. The flighted parrot periodically
dropped by. There was one particularly touching moment. The caged parrot exhausted the
food in its cage. The flighted parrot flew to the cage and regurgitate the food and fed
his mate in the cage.

 

Riding in the bus, I thought I try to make some differences for those two parrots. That
determined I will stay in Somjith GH again. As I went in, the landlord son, about 25 years old
greeted me with happiness. He told me my old room is available as I told him I would be back
today. I accepted, he took my bag up, and I ordered a cup of good Laos coffee from her sister. I will call him as LS

 

I had printed namecards with different pictures of Tinkerbell on it. Later, I realised I could not give
the namecards away without losing those picutres to show other people. He had seen those
pictures of Tinkerbell flying to me and he was so excited before I left for the plain of jars.

 

When he came down to me again, I asked him if he like me to advise him. He smiled from ear to ear
and nodded his head vigorously up and down. I told him about Tinkerbell web page
at
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9

 

I told him details of the harness design and how to make it is located there with training.

 

I was determined to start LS on the road to friendship with his parrots. I then asked
him if his clipped parrot respond to "step up" and I explained to him the importance of this. His
eyes opened wide and LS said he never did such thing. I expected that answer from him. I have studied his clipped parrot when I could earlier.

 

She appeared to be a brave girl. I approached her when she was out of the cage. She would allow me to within a certain distance and then backed off from me. I reached my hand out slowly, she moved off slowly leaving a 2 foot gap. When I retrieved my hand, she came towards me following my hand. I thought she will be a good candidate to do " step up".

 

He got her out of the cage as requested holding her cupped between his palms. I asked him to release her and she clambered out of the palm to the forearm. I was softly talking to her all the time. I took a good look at her, noticed her beauty, and while thinking of her as a beautiful parrot with rich green feathers, I moved my right hand slowly to her with my index finger under her breast. I pressed on to her and said 'step up'. I pressed on slowly as if to move my finger and scooping her up. She responded hesitantly but she stepped up.

 

I complimented her and told her what a good girl she was and continued to talk to her. After a while, I used my left hand and asked her to step up again. She responded immediately. LS smiled and smiled at me. I explained to him to place his finger below her breast and sweep slowly while telling her to step up.

 

I could see he was eager and yet frightened to do so. His finger came hestitantly, and withdrew , and came on, and withdrew. He had a fear of getting bitten, and I sensed she sensed it too. Her danger signals were so obvious to me. That tiny girl lunged and took a nip at his finger. He withdrew in shock.

 

I explained to him he MUST not fear her as his own fear may trigger that response. I explain explicitly what he must do. I played with her and after a few minutes , he tried again. His action was firmer and when his finger came with that cue, I also rotated my finger so she had to step up on his finger.

 

His eyes lighted up with that simple move. I watched LS and the parrot played. I knew I will definately let both of them become good friends. I watched LS interactions and that parrot response. I showed him how to recognise when the parrot did not like his attempts to stroke her head and he must stopped if the parrot did not like it. I got her to step up on me. I told her slowly that she would love head rubs and extended my finger slowly to her tiny head. I lightly touched her and let go. I slowly repeated that and she liked it, extending her head to my finger. LS took over and was so delighted to do that.

 

He then tried repeated cues of step up. I told him that should not be done. I took her and showed him to do a 'step up' onto my shoulder. She was so small that I had no worries of bite to my face. I also know she would not do that to me. He was very excited again with this. LS got her back and introduced her to his shoulder.

 

I took her back. I deliberately placed my right index finger to her beak. I wanted to induce her to bite me. At that time, my right thumb was close to her beak as well. When she gave me a nip, I loudly told her "NO!" and at the same time, used the thumb to push her beak away before any damage could be done.

 

I then explained to him that he must take her out everyday and spend time with her. That he must do it in the morning, the afternoon and the evening. I exxplained to LS the relationships between friends. No punishment to be ever inflicted on her. If she did things that friends should not do, she must be told immediately. Just like what I had done when she bite me. She cannot fly now. But if ever she does, it is important to spend time with her now. I then placed her on a rattan basket on the table. To show that she could be placed down and she stayed and played on that basket. I pointed out to him he could hang that rattan fish trap from my balcony and she could play there and be near him.

 


He smiled and spoke to me with conviction in his voice that he will be doing that.

 

I smiled back too. I believe his relationship with the parrot will changed and she
will never go hungry and neglected again

 

I will see what he will do tomorrow.

 

 

 

Shanlung

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Tinkerbell Legacy - VH parrot and Clicker Training Rant 06
Tinkerbell Legacy - VH parrot and Clicker Training Rant 06

 

You MUST know more about clicker training. You can get more information
from two very good groups on clicker training for parrots. I urge you to join
one or both the groups below.

 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/clickbirds

 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bird-Click

 

Today will be my last day in Luang Prabang. I will be going on a 5 day trip by river
and other transport deeper into less travelled regions of Laos. I wonder now
if I will find Internet cafes as well.

 

For earlier encounters and photos of that Vernal Hanging parrots, please refer to my blog
for entries prior to 26 Feb.
http://www.livejournal.com/users/shanlung/

 

Yesterday was another day with LS and the VH parrot. He picked up the lesson very well. I am pleased
to report that it was much easier to take her out this time. He also decided to give her a name. Folks, she is now called TieuTieu. Tieu is Laotian for green. TT will refer to TieuTieu.

 

I told him that TT is likely to moult and be fully flighted within 3 months. He told me he will not clip the wings and take this 3 months period to try to bond tightly with her. Since the mate hang around making periodic visits to TT, LS was ready to have both of them as fliers with him or let them leave. As the VH parrots are local parrots, they will just go back to natural living. He agreed that with me after I spend an evening talking and indoctrinating him in clicker training. He recognised in clicker training he will have the tools to bond and do recalls with TT in the future. I made him repeat back to me in his own words to make sure he had the basics of clicker training as English is not his best language.

 

That brought me to clicker training. Clicker training is much more than what I will be writting here. That is why it is better for you to join the groups I mentioned above.

 

Your parrot may be frightened and bite you or bored and unable to communicate with you or you want to teach your parrot tricks to interact with her. You can also lead your parrot into new activities and new behaviours in place of behaviours you do not wish her to do. It is a truth enshrined in stone that you can never force a parrot to do what she does not wish to do. But you can teach her new behaviours that she likes to do instead.

 

Then you have little choice but to turn to clicker training.

 

What is clicker training. The best book to start with will the the book "Do not shoot the dog" written by Karen Pyror. Do get your hands on this book.

 

A clicker is an inexpensive toy that children play with. When you press this, it will make a loud clicking sound like that of a cricket. If you do not have a clicker, you can use anything that makes a consistent clicking sound like that of a ball point pen.

 

When you want your bird to do something. you must have the means to let your bird knows that what she is doing is correct and something that you wanted. You can just say 'good girl', or 'yes'. However, your voice may differ from time to time. You need a sound that will be exactly the same every time, and that is why you use the clicker especially at the very beginning. The clicker sound will be the cue to her that what she did was correct. The act of clicker training also meant you must observe her to a level you probably never did before. You will know more of her body language and behaviour then before.

 

At a different level, you are communicating directly to the bird. This communication works both ways to me. Your bird will also know you are trying to communicate to her and she can use this way to communicate to you. I go more into this later.

 

Any tricks you have seen performed consist of a series of actions. You can split the actions, train her one at a time. You indicate via the clicker that she is correct and later join those series of actions into an act that you can cue her to do.

 

Your parrot should be weaned and taking solid food before you do the clicker training.

 

KNOWING HER FAVOURITE FOOD.

 

After she is weaned and taking solid food, there must be something that she absolutely like to eat. Make a note of that and stop giving that to her regularly. Her favourite food will be kept separate from the rest of her diet and given to her as treats and when you are doing clicker training with her. This special food will be used for the next phase of what we term ' Conditioning the Clicker'.

 

It has been said that it is better to restrict the feeding of the parrot so she will be hungry and more ready to 'work' for her treats. When I first saw my Tinkerbell, she was digging in a dish of sunflower seeds husks chewed almost to powder. There and then, I made a mental promise that never ever will I let her be hungry again. She had food constantly available at all times. I never felt any problems with her. In case of misunderstanding from LS, I never let him know this point of food restriction. TT is so small and not likely to have much fat reserves. Food restriction is a fine line from starvation.

 

 

 

CONDITIONING OF THE CLICKER

 

Your parrot now need to know that the clicker, or more accurately, the sound of the clicker is a good sound. It does not matter if she is in or not in the cage. So if your parrot is a biter and kept in the cage, this is a good way to make peace with her.

 

You called herhis name, press the clicker, and give her a bit of her favourite food or treat. That is all to it.
Then you leave her alone or talk to her or play with her. After a while, you press the clicker and give her the treat again. At her level, she hears the clicker sound and she gets something she likes to eat. She will get the idea that the clicker sound is a good sound.

 

It does not matter if she does not come to you and in her cage. Press the clicker and place the treat in her bowl. You can talk to her or walk away.

 

Please do not view this as a form of Pavlovian conditioning. You demean your parrot as an unthinking automaton and you demean yourself. Are your university or other education a form of Pavlovian conditioning for yourself? This is your bridge to understanding with your parrot and a portal into her mind. At a later stage, you will realised that this clicker training is a portal into her mind.

 

 

 

You should not rush this process of conditioning the clicker. Neither should you remain too long at this stage.

 

For a minimum of a week, you will walk up to your parrot, call her name, click the clicker and give her a treat. That should be done at irregular intervals. This is to let your parrot knows that sound is a good sound. If your parrot is fearful of you at the beginning, I would think in a week or so, she will accept the treat from your hand without trying to bite you.

 

Since they are very intelligent you must move on are they may get bored. So not later than 2 weeks, you should move on to TOUCH TARGET.

 


TOUCH TARGET

 


Touch target is the next important exercise. You can get a small stick which will be called the target.

 

In many cases, you can use a chopstick. However as I do use chopsticks to eat with, that will not be a practical target for me. Tinkerbell may fly to me in the middle of a dinner to 'touch target. As I seldom drink, I use a cocktail stirrer. But if you do that, make sure your friends request cocktails that are shaken and not stirred.

 

You hold that target near her head. Her normal reaction will be to bite that stick. You get ready for that. When her beak touches that stick, you click to let her know that her action is what you wanted, and then you give her the treat.

 

You noticed the timing is so important. Giving of treat is somewhat delayed. But by using the click just at the point of her action, she will know the action is what you want even if the food is given later.

 

This was what happened to me amd very significant to myself and may be interesting to you.

 

When I approached Tinkerbell for the first time with the target, I was slightly nervous about it.
I kept my mind quiet and extend my senses to her. I had been doing martial arts and meditation for many years and much into combat taijichuan.

 

What was striking was that she looked at the target, reached out to touch it, and I clicked just at that moment. She then looked at me, and at that point, I knew that she knew that I knew, as if for a moment, there was a mind to mind connection between the two of us, that I was trying to communicate to her. Later on when I get to distance recall training, I will talk more on this mind to mind.

 

I hope it may be the same with you. You are done with clicker conditioning and on the first use of the clicker to communicate intent. You just relax, place the target near her, and wait for her to touch it. When she does so and you click, maybe you can sense that too.

 

Do not forget to pour your happiness in your heart together with that clicker sound. I do not know, but I strongly suspect that matters as much if not more than the treat itself.

 

You then place your target a bit higher to make her stretch to touch target. You click and treat.
You place that target to the left, up, and down. You click and treat at all times.

 

This target and clicker will the the key to other training.

 

But I need to go and get ready for my long trip and I need to end now.

 


Warmest regards

 

Shanlung

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Уважаемые форумцы !

 

Сегодня я наконец могу предоставить вашему вниманию мой перевод одного из фрагментов записок shanlung'a о взаимоотношениях с Тинкебелл . Мне этот фрагмент кажется наиболее интересным .

 

Психология и темперамент попугая

 

Общеизвестно , что попугаи абсолютно индивидуальны , и их поведение может существенно отличаться . В этом разделе я говорю о Тинкебелл . Рассуждая об обучении и совместном проживании , полезно знать , что на уме у наших компаньонов .

 

1. Умственные способности и восприятие честной игры .

 

Её интеллект поражает меня . Поскольку она постоянно летает вокруг меня и общается со мной , возникает множество ситуаций , которые в определённой степени свидетельствуют о её интеллекте и о том , что она наделена чувствами .

 

Ранее я упоминал , как она относилась к перестановке её инвентаря и каким образом она показывала мне , что мне нужно сделать , чтобы улучшить обстановку по её вкусу . Однажды я обнаружил , что одна из привязных петель (длина петли 9 дюймов - из инвентаря) снята с крючка , а другая - надета на второй крючок (крючок , предназначенный для бечёвки) . Я подумал , что , должно быть , я сам непонятным образом ошибся и был в этом уверен до тех пор , пока однажды она (Тинкебелл в беседке за Драконьим глазом) не сняла эту петлю полностью . И после этого она на меня очень рассердилась . Потом я понял , что она , наверное , хотела , чтобы эти две петли были полностью сняты , и дала мне это знать . В тот момент она старалась прицепить петлю обратно , но воспользовалась не тем крючком .

 

Я могу также рассказать о необыкновенном выборе слов в правильном контексте , когда она разговаривала со мной .

 

Хотя она и была обучена прилетать ко мне по команде , я я с самого начала был намерен научить её "подходить" и к другим людям в определённых ситуациях . Мой сын приехал погостить к нам на несколько недель . Тинкебелл до этого никогда не подлетала и не подходила к нему . Дома я подозвал Тинкебелл , чтобы она летела ко мне . Когда она уселась на моё плечо , я подал ей команду "шагнуть" и сделал попытку передать её сыну . Она вернулась ко мне на плечо . Потом я снова попросил её "шагнуть" и повернулся к сыну . Она тотчас же улетела и уселась на ближнюю жёрдочку . Я сам подошёл к ней , так как она отказалась ещё раз лететь ко мне по команде и попросил её "шагнуть" .
Она шагнула на мою руку , но когда я повернулся к сыну , она сразу же улетела . Она даже вообще отказалась "шагать" после этого и улетела в другую комнату . Я никогда больше не пытался заставлять её приближаться к моему сыну после этого случая .

 

У меня есть водяной пистолет , который я применяю для усиления запрещающей команды "НЕТ" . У нас существует неписаный закон , гласящий , что если она прекращает делать плохие поступки - я в неё "не стреляю" . Она откусывала пуговицы с рубашки . Я сказал "НЕТ" , взял пистолет и прицелился в неё ; она с милым видом перестала жевать и уже была готова вернуться на свою жёрдочку . Я же настолько вошёл в роль злодея , что , несмотря на это , нажал на спусковой крючок , обдав её струёй воды . Она шокированно взглянула на меня и прилетела на моё плечо . Я уже рассказывал о том , что обычно она оправляется в определённых местах . Её приучили к этому с помощью похвалы , когда она делала это , сидя на своих жёрдочках . Если же она испражнялась где-нибудь в другом месте и была там поймана , её ругали . Таким образом её выдрессировали оправляться там , где нужно , и она , конечно же , знала , что нам не нравится , если она нарушает это правило .

 

Она почувствовала , что с ней поступили несправедливо . Подлетая к моему плечу , она обкакала меня . После этого у меня исчезло чувство вины , так как я , конечно , осознавал , что был неправ , "выстрелив" в неё . Затем она , не медля , перелетела на моё другое плечо и повторила свой проступок , после чего улетела и некоторое время "парила" передо мной , прежде чем отправиться чистить пёрышки на свою жёрдочку . Мне стало так стыдно , что пришлось перед ней извиниться . И я больше никогда не преступал этой черты .

 

Когда мы вместе выходим из дома , и она в своей "упряжи" , я никогда не пытаюсь использовать "упряжь" и привязь , чтобы тащить её или хотя бы даже просто "подгонять" , если она в этот момент не хочет покидать своё место и лететь ко мне - я возвращаюсь к ней , разговариваю с ней и делаю попытку выйти снова .

 

Но иногда , когда собирается много людей , появляется искушение потянуть её . Когда я так и поступал , она нарочно взлетала , направлялась к дереву и летала вокруг ствола . Она делала это специально , и при этом бечёвка даже не касалась ствола дерева до тех пор , пока её вторая петля не обматывалась вокруг ствола . Затем она оказывалась на короткой бечёвке и продолжала кружить и кружить вокруг дерева . В других случаях она знала о препятствиях , понимая , что происходит с бечёвкой , и умела их обходить . Она понимала разницу , когда её тянут нарочно и когда это происходит случайно . Иногда , когда я отходил в сторону и тянул бечёвку , я спотыкался , или катушка с бечёвкой стопорилась , сдёргивая Тинкебелл с жёрдочки . В любом из этих случаев она перелетала на моё плечо .

 

Угощение пищей - это важная составляющая любой дрессировки . Но было бы большой ошибкой считать , что наши попугаи - это жадные Павловианские роботы . В действительности они любят умную дрессировку , когда могут быть с Вами и делать то , что вы оба любите делать . Обычно я награждал Тинкебелл подсолнечными семечками всякий раз , когда она прилетала на мой зов . Это происходило до тех пор , пока однажды , подлетев ко мне , она не бросила предложенное ей семечко на землю . Потом она повернула свою голову в позе "почеши меня" , нежно поворковала со мной , тем самым попросив почесать ей голову взамен предложенного семечка .

 

Попугай - это не бездумный робот . Если мы утверждаем , что попугай умён , то очень важным является его активное участие в дрессировке . Процесс дрессировки изменяется по желанию попугая , и временами попугай дрессирует нас .

 

Если мы выступаем только в роли командующего , а попугаю достаётся роль робота , который должен повиноваться , или силой заставляем его слушаться - нас интересует только , повинуется он или нет . Если мы подходим к делу так , мы не заметим , как реагирует его тело , как он ведёт себя в ответ на наши команды . Мы видим только то , что он не слушается , и не обращаем внимания на язык его тела , потому что не понимаем , почему он делает то , чего мы не хотим . Мы можем пытаться снова и снова и виним всех в своей неудаче , но никогда не узнаем причину , о которой наш попугай старается нам сообщить .

 

Такая авторитарность никогда не приносит радости и тепла настоящей дружбы .

 

Если Вы живёте в обществе летающего попугая , которого никогда не принуждают , Ваш единственный шанс добиться успеха должен основываться на дружбе и равенстве с Вашим питомцем . Только тогда Вы с ясностью заметите язык его тела и нюансы его поведения .

 

2. Попугаи умеют сопереживать .

 

Я убеждён , что попугаи чувствуют наше настроение .

 

Когда я возвращаюсь из офиса , реакция Тинкебелл бывает совершенно разной - она как будто знает , в каком я настроении . Если у меня был плохой день , она начинает кружить надо мной и усаживается на моё плечо или голову , чтобы почистить пёрышки , или нежно покусывает моё ухо . Я охлаждаюсь напитком , позволяя ей сидеть на моём плече , что является вознаграждением за её примерное поведение .

 

Если я возвращаюсь в хорошем настроении , она подлетает ко мне с криком . Она выхватывает пачку сигарет из моего кармана , улетает на верх посудного шкафа , чтобы разорвать её на кусочки . Она игнорирует все мои "нет" . Так как я понимаю , что с её стороны это игра , то никогда не угрожаю ей водяным пистолетом в такие моменты . Я гоняюсь за ней , и она в конечном итоге позволяет себя поймать . Или же она выхватывает мои ключи , летает вокруг в поисках кота Хафтейла или хорька Зорро , чтобы поиграть с ними в пикирующий бомбардировщик , пока я не вмешиваюсь .

 

Я пытался дурачить её , притворяясь счастливым , когда этого не было , или притворялся печальным . Она всегда угадывала правильно . Возможно , она видела выражение лица и движение тела . Возможно , ей удаётся почувствовать эмоции на каком-то другом уровне .

 

Это стало очень важным моментом в наших взаимоотношениях и дрессировке . Павловский стиль дрессировки - это унижение обеих сторон .

 

Когда я занимаюсь с ней , и она выполняет всё хорошо - конечно же , я счастлив . Я также мысленно проектирую на неё своё счастье , и мои слова , обращённые к ней , отражают это ощущение счастья . Если я делаю то , что ДЕЙСТВИТЕЛЬНО ПЛОХО , я выплёскиваю на неё весь свой гнев и плохое настроение . Это ошибка , и я верю , что наши лицемерные поступки и мысли приводят попугая в замешательство .

 

Если Вы обнаружили , что попугай делает что-то плохое , и это Вас расстраивает - очень важно быть с ним честным . Нежные слова и убийственные мысли ставят его в тупик . Ещё один момент , о котором я говорил ранее : если птица совершила какой-либо плохой поступок , когда Вы этого не видели , Вам следует просто прибрать или исправить это , а потом даже не думать о случившемся .

 

Я не сторонник наказания или устрашения как составляющей дрессировки попугая . Тинкебелл совсем не боится водяного пистолета . Она даже любит игры со мной , когда он задействован . Она делает что-то и знает , что по моему определению это "плохо" . Она даже кричит при этом :
" Тинкебелл - плохая девочка !" , чтобы я узнал , что она безобразничает . Она знает , что пистолет должен быть нацелен на неё , прежде чем он сработает . Она ждёт до тех пор , пока я почти прицелюсь в неё , чтобы взлететь и улетать зигзагами с линии огня , а потом усестся на верхушку пистолета , как на жёрдочку , при этом ловя меня клювом , потому что это - большая игра .

 

Она тоже дрессирует меня . Когда ей хочется пить , она даёт мне это знать особыми звуковыми сигналами . Иногда мне не удаётся это заметить , особенно в те моменты , когда она сидит на моём плече , а я задумался о чём-то другом . Моя жена замечает сигналы , но сохраняет спокойствие из любопытства , так как хочет знать , что будет делать Тинкебелл . Потом Тинкебелл начинает щипать меня за ухо , чтобы привлечь моё внимание , и снова просит воды .

 

Нет , я не думаю , что она наказывает меня - она щиплет меня только для того , чтобы привлечь внимание . Я могу сделать вывод , что , возможно , она позаимствовала это у меня и теперь дрессирует хозяина .

 

У нас весёлые и здоровые взаимоотношения , мы вместе визжим от избытка счастья , много играем и смеёмся .

 

Если Ваш попугай очень чувствительный и боязливый , Вы прежде всего должны терпеливо завоёвывать его доверие . Помочь Вам в этом может дрессировка с использованием щёлкающего звука , которой я планирую заняться впоследствии . Я считаю , что все агрессивные попугаи очень боязливы и чувствительны . Но я не могу представить себе попугая , который щиплет Вас , чтобы намеренно причинить Вам зло . Он наверняка подал Вам много сигналов телом , а Вы не обратили на них внимания .

 

Я уже говорил , что Вы не должны бояться Вашего попугая . Вы можете уважать его , но никогда не должны бояться . Я абсолютно уверен , что , если Вы боитесь его , он это чувствует , читает Ваши мысли и может неправильно истолковать Ваш страх . Ваш страх может ещё больше напугать попугая , и всё закончится тем , что он Вас покусает .

 

 

 

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С уважением ,

 

Елена Туржевская .

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shanlung

Tinkerbell Legacy - Final Rant - Bringing it all
together

 

13 April 12 noon

 

I am sitting in a cyber cafe in Chang Mai and I am
soaking wet. I decided to take a temporary refuge
from the Songkran festival which started officially
today and which will end 3 days later on Friday. I had
known of this festival for a long time, even thought
of coming here for it but never did until this year.
My wife Joy was to have joined me here (in case you
are wondering) but she got caught up in some work in
Singapore.

 

I marked myself as a combatant by carrying a small
bucket to drench anyone drenchable and in turn was
cleansed of misfortunes by an assortment of water
blasters, buckets and pails wielded by others. The
water can be directly from the moat which surround the
old Changmai city, may even be purified by special
water treatment trucks and likely to have ice blocks
in it. As the temperature is about 35 C, it can get
very refreshing.

 

This is the most important Thai festival and celebrate
their New Year.

 

See
http://www.travelinsights.org/writing/songkran.html
for a more complete description of this festival (a
site I picked randomly)

 

I also thought I should bring to a conclusion the
legacy of Tinkerbell.

 

I had written earlier of clicker training and of the
target stick. For more details of clicker training,
it is strongly advised you join either of the two
clicker training groups that I mentioned before.

 

The training that you will be doing together with your
charge is a long term process. It is also a daily
process. It is not so much as to training but a
bonding that you do with your charge. In my view,
they understand you much better than you may
understand them. The training should not be a
mechanical process that with enough repeats, you can
get them to do things immediately like clockwork.
Perhaps that can be done. But ask yourself, will that
be enjoyable to her? and to you? that you can proceed
to do such unenjoyable procedures on a daily basis?
It is far better to have a routine that both likes and
look forward to. If you got a flying bird, if she
does not like it, it will not be possible to make her
do it. It is much more important to keep it
interesting enough for her to like what you are doing
with her. Many repeats one after another is not going
to fit that most important requirement.

 

Life must be more than mindless rote training on
either side.

 

Clicker training session with Tinkerbell consisted of
maybe 25% clicker training intersperse with lots of
talking and headrubs. That may be sessions of 5 to 10
minutes long and about twice or three times a day.
The daily outdoor flights with her were part of the
training but not considered as clicker training here.

 

With that 'touch target' technique, you are onto a lot
of other tricks that you can teach her.

 

I bought those different color and shape baby toys
with the thought of teaching her color and shapes. I
laid them out in front of her, use the target stick to
touch one of them and told her to touch target. She
immediately knew it was not the stick and the block
being referred to. I had visions of getting her to
pick up objects by verbally telling her the color and
shape and she getting that right and dropping into the
container. It went so well that first session that I
thought it was going to be too easy.

 

She picked up the blocks as indicated by the target
stick. She got clicked and treat a few times. I
placed out my hand and told her to drop it there. She
walked up to my hand and placed it. She got clicked
and treat. What happened was a quirk of fate.
HalfTail my cat and Zorro my ferret were also let out
to play on the floor and they happened to be there at
that time. The block slipped from my hand and fell
near HT. HT had a fright and jumped up.

 

Tinkerbell thought it was so much fun to frighten poor
HT even if that first time was an accident. At the
next request to pick up the block with the target
stick, she did that and deliberately threw it down
near HT. HT had another fright and ran away. Tink
then took another block and flew to aim at HT. I got
excited myself and added my emotions to the situation
and Tink felt it was a great game she got on to,
taking blocks and hurling at HT and Zorro.

 

That ended the attempts to teach Tink to pick up
blocks. That was another reason why I felt parrots,
or at least Tink is an empath able to pick up
emotions. I did not feel it fair (and I was too lazy)
to want to lock up HT and Zorro everytime I teach
Tink. Everytime I took out the blocks, she would pick
one to throw at HT or to fly with it to bomb HT. That
was Tink's interpretation which I could not correct or
bring myself to correct.

 

I store those blocks away. But perhaps you may have
better luck with that especially if you do not have
other pets around to act as distraction.

 

My main aim at that time was to get Tink to fly back
to me on cue. I focused on 'touch target'. But with
variations of touching the target stick. To get her
to bend up and bend down and walk or fly to the target
stick was too easy. I had to use more complex
variations to keep her interest. You can see that in
an old letter together with photos of her doing that.
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/clicker...ouchtarget.html

 


This 'touch target' was the basis of how I taught her
to fly back to me on recall.
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/w8recalltraining.htm

 

The above URL is an earlier letter that I wrote on
recall training. Even if your parrot does not fly as
yet, you should teach them recall training even if
they walk to you now. You get them into the habit of
coming to you when you call them. When they can fly,
it will be that much easier.

 

If your parrot do not fly now, it may be possible to
get them to fly later when new flight feathers are
grown. This may not be a definate thing. If your
parrot had not been allowed to fledge and fly for a
few weeks before the feathers were clipped and if they
are many years old now, they may not even fly after
the flight feathers are grown again.

 

You cannot teach them how to fly. After all, you
cannot fly yourself. BUT, you can give them a very
safe environment for them to practise their first
flights. The first flights can be very scary for them
and for yourself. It was scary for me and very
painful to watch her hit the walls and slide down. If
I had to do that again, I would have prepared a
special room with nettings along the walls for her to
cling to.

 

http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/wflyindoor1.html

 

Above URL is another earlier letter on teaching your
parrot to fly indoors.

 

After your parrot is flying about inside your house
and coming to you on recalls, you need to take her to
fly in much bigger enclosed areas. If you live in a
huge mansion, you should also take her to that bigger
enclosed areas. You need to let her really stretch
her wings safely and you need to gain the temperament
and confidence in yourself and her. Your fear can
affect her and this is a vital step before attempting
harness on outside.

 

Go into Tinkerbell webpages and read all that I wrote
under the main category of "Tinkerbell and her
semi-free flights in large building" . You may find
the mistakes I made so you need not repeat them. Most
of all, you and her will have the fun of it.

 

With successful recalls in big enclosed areas, you can
now think of taking her out in harness.

 

Do read what I think of harness usage in "Using
Harness"
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/wUsingHarness.html

 

Your parrot must be ready to wear the harness. To
wear the harness, she must allow you to stroke and
touch her all over. If your parrot likes head rubs,
you use that as a starting point. While giving her
head rubs. extend your other fingers to stroke her
back. At any point when she does not like, stop and
do not go on and get back to just head rubs. Slowly,
you get to stroke her wings, and under her wings, her
back, and her stomach. Take it easy and as a game
with her. You got many many more months and years
ahead of you. Do not stress her or yourself.

 

Read all the letters I wrote on harness design. Each
of those letters have been chronologically written
with increment on the design but building up on
earlier knowledge.

 

The very first letter setting out the principles of
Tinkerbell harness is the most important of the
harness letter
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/harness1.html

 

Even letters without harness in it contain matters
relating to harness and touches on or was the
foundation to later changes in harness.

 

The final letter on harness "Tinkerbell - Harness for
Dennis" gave the photo by photo stages of the last
version of Tinkerbell harness.
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/wtinkharnessdennis.htm

 

When I was out with Tinkerbell, I used two harnesses
with her all the time. The first was the visible
harness and line used more to reassure me that she
could not spook and fly away. The second and most
important harness and line is the verbal connections I
maintained with her. I talked to her to reassure her
and that was what kept her with me.

 

In outside recalls, and indoor recalls, or anything I
need of her for that matter, I always talked with her
until I felt she was ready to do that and then and
only then, I gave the cue. If her eyes were not on me
and mentally she not with me, I try not to cheapen the
cue by using it. The cue should only be used when you
know it would be effective.

 

There had been distinct times when I knew we were in
mental connections (Please do not quote that con-man
former magician and former escapologist Randi as if he
is the final arbiter (read some of the articles I
found on Randi in the links in
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/randi.html and
demand I write a 'scientific paper' the way I was
demanded to do after I wrote of Ivan my cat in
"Tinkerbell Legacy - Start"
http://www.livejournal.com/users/shanlung/1564.html
and specifically in
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/ivan1.html

 

In the late evenings with Tinkerbell been recalled
from over 30 meters away, I could not see her from
that distance. I talked to her for a while and
somehow I knew she was with me and I gave recall cue.
And at that point in time, I knew she would take
flight to me. If you have played at darts, there are
some shots that felt sweet and that you know will hit
exactly the point that you wanted the moment that dart
left your finger. There is no mistaking that feeling.
When you miss the mark, you never ever get that sweet
feeling.

 

I need not raise my voice in that distance, but I
knew that she knew. Its just a strange mental feeling
that happened in about one in every 3-4 recalls when I
could not see her. Perhaps I noticed visual aspects
in that distant grey on grey. Perhaps I just did
know. And your choice to interprete as you like.

 

That same person demanding that I submit a 'scientific
paper' mentioned that she got bitten by her parrot as
she tried to take note of the pinning of the eye
before the bite. Now, the eyes may pin before the
bite. The eyes may also pin very quickly before the
bite. BUT, before the pinning of eyes, there are so
many shades of feeling that the parrot will exhibit,
that she is nervous, that she is unhappy, that she is
very very unhappy, then they pin the eyes and bite.
It is just sad that those entire range of emotional
display from a parrot can be blissfully ignored and
not taken noticed of.

 

That is why I kind of insisted that you treat the
parrot as friends and not something to be 'trained'
and that you are the 'alpha' and commander.

 

Before that, that had been occasional times I forgot
to hook the line to the harness. I am sure she knew,
but she never flew off from me and I had the feeling
she was amused when I realised to my fright she was
not hooked. It even got to a stage that harness and
hooking of line was incorporated into a verbal check
with my wife before we walked out of the apartment.

 

And this is not something I encourage. In the last
month before I left Taiwan, when I reached my
apartment and before I go inside. I removed
Tinkerbell's harness when we were in the open. That
was done rather deliberately by me. She knew she was
free. But she flew back to me from her motorbike
perch and we walked into the apartment.

 


Warmest regards

 

Shanlung

 


http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/

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Hi shanlung,

 

Thank you for your very interesting message. It was real fun to read about your poor HalfTail bombarded by Tink with color blocks!

 

The more I read about clicker training the more I feel excited about it, so probably in just a short while I will try it on my bird. My Roma already allows me to stroke his beak, neck, back, wings, chest and even massage his fingers on both feet. Just recently he has started letting me grab him from the back for a transfer to another place without a bite (though in the beginning I did get a few light "preventive" bites from my rather "polite" parrot).

 

I think what you write about this feeling that tells you of the intention of your parrot to bite you is very important and is largely underestimated by a lot of parrot owners. It really takes time to start understanding your bird and probably in most cases this understanding comes via your comprehension of the bird's body language, but I tend to think that sometimes it is more about this mysterious and hard-to-explain flash of mind-reading, rather than timely noticing the pinning of the eyes or some micro moves of the body.

 

Some of my fellow-forumists are complaining that their birds that could fly before getting wing-clipped after growing flight feathers start to hit the walls and windows for no obvious reason as they can turn in the air without any problem. I actually saw my Roma do the same on more than one occasion when he started to fly and I also felt very sorry for him watching him sliding down the walls. But I still cannot understand what made him take off from the cage and hit the wall just 2 meters away in a straight and very purposeful flight. However now that he can easily make U-turns he has completely stopped his attempts to fly though the walls.

 

I doubt that I will ever come to free-flight outdoor sessions but I find it very useful to learn how you have taught Tink to return on recall cues.

 

It is very good that you stay with us despite all the language problems. I still hope that you will be getting posted by our English speaking forumists and that soon we will see more non-Russian forumists who you could also communicate with directly without any intermediate translation. Anyway some of your posts have already been translated in short manually and others will be as I or somebody else finds the time.

 

Best regards,

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Hello George,

 

I am happy that what I wrote is interesting to you. I hope that it is useful and can help you and all others to have a deeper relationship with your parrots.

 

The understanding of the parrot can only be made if you regard the parrot as a true friend. Then your observation of the parrot is made at at different level and there will be less misunderstanding and a lot less biting. I believe the parrot bites out of frustration. And before any real biting, there are so many signs made by the parrot. Pinning of eyes is such a final stage that I never bothered to look for eye pinning from Tinkerbell or from any of the other parrots and macaws and cockatoos I have handled. You may have seen from the photos that I have handled other very big parrots such as Black Palms and Moluccans. The biggest and most wicked beaks are that from keas when I was in New Zealand.

 

There is nothing to be afraid of in clicker training. I was very afraid when I started, but the main fear is fear itself. So do not hesitate anymore. The clicker training will be fun and rewarding for you and your parrot.

 

When a bird first start to fly, the flying is not difficult. What is very difficult is the control of the flight by the parrot or bird at the very beginning. That a parrot can turn does not meant it turned deliberately. Many people mistake those early turnings were made deliberately but more likely that was accidentally done by the parrot.
That parrot may just be as confused by the turning made accidently and not under its direct control.

 

That is why even if the parrot can turn in flight, it hit the wall at the beginning as that parrot was not able to turn in time to prevent hitting the wall.

 

This is the point where many owners became desperate and wanted to clip the wings.

 

The parrot will take a few days before it knows how to control the turning and its flight.

 

Then after two or three days, the parrot knows how to control the turning and not hit the wall or windows anymore.

 

This painful period is not avoidable. However, the early flights are normally very slow and the chance of injury is small. If a room with nets hung around the walls can be available, it will be very much safer for this beginning period.

 

Warmest regards

 

Shanlung

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Tinkerbell Legacy - Rant 08 How to avoid getting badly bitten by your bird

 


Tinkerbell Legacy - Rant 08 How to avoid getting badly bitten by your bird

 

Sorry if I mislead you by calling the last rant to be a final rant. Looks like I have got more to say.

 


This is a letter made a couple of days ago on 9 May that you may find useful if your parrot or macaw or cockatoo bites you.

 

I will not mention which group that was as it is unlikely you find me there again. The vast majority of people there are nice as usual. The one I addressed to is nice and so is the other mentioned in the letter.

 

But there is one who knows so little and who think she knew everything.

 

Saying that I use a chainsaw to cut butter while she uses a knife? Why ? because she THINKS that she knew clicker training and took acception that I never mentioned that in this particular letter.

 


She then claimed I am angling for praise and her crony jumped in saying I am there to boast.

 

There are better things for me to do in life.

 

=========================================================

 

To Groovy's Mom,

 

Thank you for writing directly to me that you enjoyed those episodes I wrote of Tinkerbell and her training in her webpage
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9

 

I was hesitant at the beginning of stepping in. No matter how detailed you wrote of your problems, at best it will be a snapshot and important details may have been left out making it difficult to advise you to avoid further biting especially as you are one of those rare person keeping a flighted Goffin. You definately have a sense of humour as it is unimaginable to me otherwise. No one without a sense of humour can ever keep a flighted parrot or 2 or macaw at home.

 

Being a mom and FRIEND with Groovy, it is important that unacceptable behaviour be dealt with firmly. I have no difficulties with your use
of of your spray bottle to reinforce your NOs. Heck! I had a water blaster to wave about to let her know her occasional fragrant disregards for my NOs do have consequences. I do believe that make for overall amicable living in somewhat harmony.

 

I agree with Angie that the fly swatter should not be used, but for reasons very different from hers.

 

I do believe that Groovy and you love each other. Groovy may be taking her cues how to treat you from how you treat her. I do not think Groovy fear that swatter unlike Angie. But Groovy may think a more robust relationship with you may be ok just as you are more robust with her (even if you never did use it on her).

 

I do not think you want that trend to continue. A firm NO together with mental outpouring of anger will be enough. Wave that spray bottle for emphasis if you need more. If bad behaviour persist, cage time should be mandatory.

 

It will be a bad mistake to pussy foot around fearing to upset them bearing your pain in silence. As I have said, they read our emotions. If you remain outwardly nice and inside an emotional turmoil, you will confuse them.

 

If you read those episodes with Tinkerbell, you will read now and then she gave me manicure. It is interesting why that happened. Even with our relationship, I was very wary at first when she got on my shoulders. I would put my hand up between her and my face to control her beak just in case. I also thought it to be a good idea in case she got bored and want to bite, I rather let her bite my fingers than my cheek. Instead, she got on to giving my fingers a good manicure.

 

Do take care if Groovy want to snuggle to your face especially when you relate he might bite you. Do read what I wrote about training parrot 'Parrot on shoulder being gentle'.
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/wbeinggentle.html

 

I never stick or wave my fingers silently under the beak or around the eyes of Tinkerbell or any parrot. I was stupid enough to do that to her at the beginning, but since then, never.

 

I may look ugly now from my photos. But long long time ago when I was 3 -4 years old, I was incredibly cute. My sisters and her friends loved to hug me and pinch my cute cheeks, to my immense disgust at that time. I did tell them I did not like it, but it seemed what they liked determined what they could do.

 

So everytime I raised my finger to Tinkerbell's head, I would tell her I am going to give a head rub or beak rub. I watched her. If she bowed her head or hold steady, it would be ok with her. If she withdrew slightly, that meant she did not want my head rubs or beak rubs at that time. So I do my thing and ask again later.

 

It is a matter of courtesy and respect to tell them what we like to do. And pay attention to their response before we proceed.

 

There have been this talk about watching eyes pinning as an indication that they may attack. We might as well watch that they open their beaks before they bite you.

 

I do not know about eye pinning. But they indicate their moods and if you are observant enough, you know their likes and dislikes. If you watch them enough, you will see so many shades of likes and dislikes that you will never bother to look for eyes pinning. I am not even certain if their eyes pinned before they bite. Perhaps that is another fallacy such as height placement and their behaviour.

 

If they indicate dislike, that should be enough for you to desist and not push them to the point that they bite you.

 

If it is a bird that I am not familiar with, I talk to them, telling them how nice they are and feeling the words in my heart. When I extend my right index finger for head rub/beak rub, my right thumb is prepared to push on the lower beak near the head if a bite occur and withdrawing my finger. So far, so good. I have not been bitten even by 2s and macaws that I was warned are biters. I gave them time and talked to them and let them warm to me. I also do take precautions thereby not fearing them which may trigger a bite because of the fear itself.

 

If you read my letters, from now and then, I mention I do martial arts, a lot of martial arts.

 

In training my friend who looked after Tinkerbell, I had to train him and his family in case of bites. Their thumbs may not be as fast as mine.

 

I told them to hold their right index finger with their left hand very hard. If they pull their right hand away, it would be difficult just as if a bite occured. And the beaks may grind and grind.

 

If instead, they push their right index finger towards the wrist of the left holding hand at 30 degree and rotate the right index finger against the thumb of the holding hand such that the right palm is now facing upwards, the grip will be broken. Get your husband or boyfriend to grip you hard on your wrist or your index finger. You will find it difficult to pull away. If you push your wrist or finger downwards and rotate it in a smooth motion, you break free without hurting him.

 

In the same way, instead of pulling away from the bite, you push towards the chest of the bird and rotate your hand. Yes, Tink after the first 2 weeks of honeymoon, was a biter. But I was glad my years of martial arts did help me. Then, we bonded and played and a different story emerged.

 

I hope now you respect the beak, but not fear the beak anymore.

 

As to your enquiry about commercial harness, I must advise you strongly against commercial harness. Do take your time with Tinkerbell webpage and read what I wrote on harness including my philosophy on them, how to make them and how to put them on and when you should do that.

 

There are so many details without which the use of harness can be very dangerous.

 

Good ideas are a dime a dozen as you will find out eventually with those commercial harness and flightsuits. You just try threading tiny buckles on moving body with sharp beaks and all I taught earlier about avoiding beaks will be futile.

 

Or worse, they make use of those spring loaded thingy wingy to hold them together. Tinkerbell can open them in one second flat. Have you walked on a mist shrouded ledge with forests around and a drop of 300 meters and hear the click when the spring loaded thingy wingy was opened and the leash released when your beloved parrot is on your shoulder?

 

That happened to me as you can read in
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/harness4.html

 

Harness is not a cure all. There are specific conditions that apply.

 

You have a long time ahead with Groovy. Do take the time to read the details that hopefully will make your living with Groovy even more enjoyable than my lving with Tinkerbell.

 

Warmest regards

 

Shanlung

 

http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9

 

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This is the letter I wrote when she claimed I use a chainsaw to cut butter while she uses a knife. She never bothered to tell me about that knife chosing to give a tirade from a different direction. Jumping instead to what I wrote that it is ok to wave that spray bottle just as I wave my water blaster.

 

You have read and known of the context that is done. I am more than willing to be cruxified by you as I know you knw all about me.

 

But from one who does not know and think she knew?

 

 

 


That is when I decided the lowest denominator wins. I just rather not be there again.

 

 

 


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xxxxx,

 

When I see someone in the water struggling to stay afloat, I do not think teaching that person how to swim is appropriate. That person needed a ring thrown over.

 

When a person is afraid of being bitten and the wings of a bird is at risk, I do want to try my best to save both.

 

I am fascinated by your proclaimed admiration for the work you said I have done with my birds. I just wonder what do you know about what I have done as it is so obvious that you have not read about it.

 

If you had, clicker training, or the knife you love to compare with the chainsaw, is so evident as the foundation of all that I have done in almost everything I have written. Since Groovy Mom is reading those earlier letters in Tinkerbell webpage, I know that she is fully aware of how important clicker training is, at least to what I have done with Tinkerbell.

 

When others, including yourself, mentioned clicker training, I thought I need not add more.

 

But perhaps I am totally wrong. You have this wonderful knife that I missed while I lug around a chain saw to cut butter.

 

So do tell me more of that knife of yours.

 

Shanlung

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shanlung,

 

I don't know if you have ever dealt with wild-caught adult birds, but in Russia there are very few people that bought their birds hand-raised or 5-months old or with CITES, because ~99% of all big parrots are simply smuggled in, so most owners have to tame their birds having little or zero experience and therefore making a lot of mistakes.

 

I absolutely agree with you when you say: "Considering that your fid and you will likely be spending a lifetime together, does it matter if you do take a week, or a month, or two months longer to establish a good relationship?"

 

However you won't find many people ready to spend their lifetime on taming a bird, instead everyone would like to make the taming period as short as possible looking forward to an enjoyable relationship with a companion bird rather than a biting and screaming wild creature.

 

There was a hot discussion at our forum whether one should rush taming or just be patient though persistent and let things take their time.

 

For example: how far would you go in pursuing a taming target seeing that your parrot is just about to bite you? Would you stop just there or would you continue by taking the bite? Being bitten would you then neglect it as a fair bite or would you discipline your bird by caging him up or giving him a flick on the beak?

 

I wanted very much to teach my Roma to let me grab him from the back so that I could transfer him – into the carrier cage or just elsewhere, and of course he didn’t like that very much – and I assume still doesn’t. Anyway I started to gently grab him when he was taking shower in the closed bathroom just to bring him to the other end of the long perch over the bathtub. Roma would get nervous and try to escape, finally starting to bite me on the fingers but not as badly as to bite them off, so I just tolerated it and would put him back on the perch without a reprimand, though it did hurt. Now I see things getting better and I don’t think I was really hurting his feelings.

 

Taking a shower is a significant happening for both of us. First I verbally invite him to take a shower and he consents by stepping up on my hand. Then when in the bathroom I hold him on my hand in front of a big mirror and we start a conversation: I tell him how handsome and smart he is and he will answer me in a variety of whistles. Then he will walk onto my shoulder and I will try to stroke his back as he tries to avoid it by sliding down my back a little. Then I place him on the perch and we start the “Don’t grab me” play. When the game’s over the shower time comes and Roma gives me his fingers to massage. Finally when the 2-liter sprayer is empty and Roma is soaked through I ask him if he liked the shower and get a happy whistle from him.

 

So where would you draw the line between obtrusiveness and persistence in taming a wild-caught adult bird?

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George,

 

You have a lifetime ahead with any parrot. You do not need to spend a lifetime to train and bond even with a wild parrot. This process must never be rushed. How long the process depends on the parrot and the trainer as each parrot will be different even among the same species. Gentleness and understanding and respect for the parrot must be the foundation and never speed and punishment.

 

Once, I kept a reticulated python. I caught it when it was 600mm long and kept it until it was 5 meters 4 years later. I then let it go back into the forest. I handled it regularly, very slowly. He never bite me. My son, who was very young could take it out, wear it around the neck and walk about the house and was never bitten. Then I read in books that reticulated pythons are dangerous and fierce biters and can never be handled safely. I think it is the way animals are handled. Be watchful and be slow with them and the animals will get to trust you.

 

You must respect, but must never fear the beak. Your fear of getting bitten may cause the biting itself as the parrot can sense your fear. As parrot is already frigthened, that will make it even more frigthen and bite you.

 

In my last letter, I wrote how to avoid getting badly bitten. If you know how to avoid that, you have less fear and your relationship with the parrot will be better.

 

So where would you draw the line between obtrusiveness and persistence in taming a wild-caught adult bird?

 

I cannot answer that. One must pay close attention to the parrot and must respect the wishes of that parrot especially a wild caught parrot. There were times that Tinkerbell did not want headrubs. I then try again 10 minutes later.

 

The worse thing to do is to stop trying to break through and leave the parrot totally alone.

 

Warmest regards

 

Shanlung

 

 

 


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Harness for flighted parrots - To Nick and folks

 

This is not just for people with flighted parrots. This is also for people with clipped parrots who may like to take them out.

 


The assumption people made that as their parrots are clipped they cannot fly away. This assumption is so seriously wrong that it is painful to me.

 

It is not much use to test if the clip is sufficient. Most likely
the test depended more on seeing a calm bird can fly or not. If
calm, even a bird not clipped and is a flier as well just will not fly away.

 

So that clipped parrot may glide or flap the wings and flap and glide a longer distance. Those pseudo 'tests' give people false sense of confidence and thereby dropping their guard totally.

 

And those owners in their ignorant bliss pet themselves on their backs and nod that their birds have wonderful clips and is safe and cannot fly away.

 

BUT, in times of stress and when the bird is spooked, they will fly
away. Those people have never seen the power of a bird that is spooked. They never can test their clipped parrots when they are spooked, by a car horn going off suddenly, by a sudden gust of wind, by a dog barking, by that lady walking past with a strange hat, and they think all is 'safe'.

 

I reckoned more clipped parrots have been lost then flighted parrots.

 

Not all harnesses are equal.

 

When I lived in Taipei, a huge chaotic and fascinating city, I bought a commercial harness not knowing anything better to take Tinkerbell out for walks in the neighbourhood. That harness was so stiff and hard that after a few times, Tinkerbell resisted my attempts to put it on and I gave up.

 

At home in the apartment, she flew about happily flying to me on cue as well as flying to me because she thought it to be a good idea.

 

Eventually, I found a huge area, an office space under renovation, where I could take her to fly in what is termed as semi freeflight in enclosed conditions. That was in 2002 and with much discussions with Chris, Janet and others from FF list. I documented that and I believe that was the first ever documentation in the FF list on semi freeflights as well as the disection of the mistakes made and solutions. Those reports can be read from Tinkerbell webpage http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9 in the section "Tinkerbell and her semi-free flights in large building"

 

Those semi free flights are essential, AND MUST BE DONE, before you even think of taking your parrot out to free fly or fly on harness.

 

I never intended at the beginning to fly Tinkerbell on harness. I stumbled onto this path by accident and kind of developed along.

 


Eventually, we moved to Chiayi city at the foot of the Alishan mountain mastiff. But Chiayi is also surround by huge plains of padi fields. I thought it to be safe to freefly Tinkerbell in. The concensus then ( and it appears to be now still) was that parrot cannot fly more than 3 miles.

 

I carefully selected a site many miles from the nearest groups of building. I deliberately allowed a clump of trees about 200 meters away thinking this may act as a lure to Tinkerbell should she not fly to me. I thought I could go those trees at worse to get her back again to me.

 

I brought her there in carrier to show her around a few times. She hated harness so no harness for her.

 

The first time she came out it was ok. It was ok still for a while. Then she spooked and flew. My mouth dropped as she flew and flew and flew, way way way beyond 3 miles. Thought you folks better be aware of that especially when you all seem to be mesmerised that 3 miles is still the limit,

 

That was a nightmare that I do not wish on my worse enemy.

 

I wrote of that experience so that if anyone want to try to free fly, they can get a taste of how that could be like.

 

When I wrote those letters to the parrot mailing list on recovering Tinkerbell after two days and nights . I could not eat or sleep and did not know if I was alive or I was dead. If I had not recovered her, those letters would never be written.

 

Since those letters were very long, I had to break that into 3 parts. My friends around the world had a shock of their lives as they all grew very attached to Tinkerbell. They thought that she was still lost at that time when I send of that first letter. They did not see that it was 1 of 3.

 

You can read that experience and get a first hand taste of what it is like to be in the Overnighter's club below. You can also read my conclusion there and then.

 


Tinkerbell free flight report 1 of 3
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/free2.html

 

Tinkerbell free flight report 2 of 3
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/free3.html

 


Tinkerbell free flight report 3 of 3
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/free4.html

 


Tinkerbell free flight - In Retrospect
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/free5.html

 

Ultimately, it was my deliberate targetting of kindergartens and junior schools with fliers and posters adding to my pool of eyes and ears with younger people more likely to see and talk among themselves that lead to final recovery. It was a kid that gave me the break I needed. Bear that in mind if you need to recover your parrot. Not that what I said help. I have seen so many recovery attempts here that did not seem to consider kids can be your most important assets as they are more honest and open.

 

Our vision and our hearing is nothing like that of parrots with their much superior senses. What you deemed to be 'safe' may be very threatening to them.

 

You cannot make assumptions on their behalf as to their surroundings. A few months after that incident, I came across an article in the local press that thousands of ducks in the farms around the area were dying. There was a military airbase in that area. To prevent accidents from birds striking the planes, the airbase used an ultrasonic device to scare away birds. That frightened the ducks leading to their death. It could just be that at that time when I took Tinkerbell for her truly free flight, that airbase might have activated the alarm scaring Tinkerbell and spooking her off.

 

Since then, I knew I had to take a different course of action. I gave up all further thoughts of free flying. But I love the mountains and forests of Taiwan, more beautiful than my words can describe and far exceeding my ability to capture on photographs. So even if you enjoyed the photos I and my wife had taken, they are only a shadow compared to the true reality of those places. I wanted to take Tinkerbell with me even if she will not free fly.

 

I decided to try using a harness that I designed. The commercial harnesses available for parrots then were, and still are, totally unsuitable. I strongly advice against buying them.

 

On a trip to the mountains shortly after that, and with my martial arts background, I made an inspired step by making radically different assumptions in harness to create the new Tinkerbell harness. That hard and strong does not mean the harness is safer when they hate it and will chew that off. Soft seemingly weak harness may be stronger as they will accept it and not want to chew it away. I do not know if your parrot is like Tinkerbell. But Tinkerbell who could chew wooden toys to bits hardly chew on her harness after an short initial stage. It is your choice to make. But I have walked that walk with Tinkerbell still around even if with her present caregiver, who by the way, takes Tink out every evening and fly her in her harness.

 

That harness was meant to take her out in and not originally thought of taking her to fly. That harness worked and Tinkerbell accepted it. So we went out with her in harness and a reelable dog leash. And of course, she flew a bit in it and seemed to be comfortable flying in that harness I designed. I did not expect her to fly in harness originally. Tinkerbell had different ideas and flew in that harness. I complied with her wishes and explore means to lighten her leash. That was how the harness was developed from just a harness to a flying harness.

 

Then I thought what if I used a lighter leash. I found this high tech high strength braided fishing line made from Dyneema. I also found that this material is also used for bullet proof vest and stronger than Kevlar.

 

Do see the report I made on the first flight of Tink with fishing line as leash in "Tinkerbell at Alishan Dinghu (first use of fishing line)" http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/wtink01dinghu.htm

 

We travelled high and low, far and wide after that. You can read and see the photos made of a small fraction of the trips we made. We were out almost every weekends. Tinkerbell was taken to fly from low down to me high up on a hill. She flew from up above to me several floors below. She flew in the mountains and forests. We went for walks to look at the stars and fireflies at night. She flew in winds near tyhoon force. She flew in gusty shifty winds. She was out from me at over 70 meters when a rainstorm suddenly hit. I gave the recall and she flew back in the rain.

 

In the temple grounds to parks to seaside to meadows. She flew in a freedom that you can only get a glimpse of from my reports.

 

She developed confidence and poise from outings to outings. I smiled when I read about how easily greys are spooked by even addition of a new chair in the house, or the color of a new shirt. I mentally contrast that to the thousands of new people she met in her travels and the new hotel rooms that she was introduced to almost every weekend.

 

At first she flew to me on recall only in straight line. Then she varied it as her strength and confidence grew. Her best flights were never captured by my camera. She may fly to me, than soar in a twisting flight upwards to circle around, then fly in a big circle and weaved down to me. The memory of my camera ran out as we tried to capture those long flights. A shadow of that beauty exist only in my words of those reports as I tried by best to describe what could not be photographed.

 

She rarely snag the line. Even when she did, I wrote in detail how to handle those snagged lines which seemed never to be read , or read and disbelieved in, or read and totally forgotten as snagging in trees pop up now and again as a snug reason as to why harness should not be used.

 

Yes, the other reason against harness is that 'they hit a brick wall' when they reached the end of the line. I am sorry for plagiarising from what I have written before but I thought I gather that into this letter as well as it is going out to all groups.

 

We need not worry so much about the flying to the end and the jerk.

 

In all the 'end of line' encounters with Tinkerbell, she just kind of
swivel onto a new direction. None of those 'hitting a brick wall'
scenerio'.

 

I wondered over that before and decided it was a matter of applied
mechanics.

 

First of all, our arm holding the line, the line, and her body all have
a certain 'looseness' and give to them. The jerk is not an
abrupt 'hitting of brick wall'.

 

When they fly, their center of gravity , CG, is not and never will be
at the point of tether to the harness. To be more explicit, that CG
will be at the point of tether if that tether can be threaded
physically through the heart. The stop will then be abrupt, but then,
with the tether through the heart, you need not worry about her flying
fast or even flying at all.

 

That meant the CG is off-set away from the line. The point of
attachment of the tether to the harness acts as a hinge. So when the
end of line is reached, the body kind of rotate around onto a new
direction.

 

Tinkerbell knew it. There had been many times she deliberately flew to
the end of the line away from me to twist at the end to fly in big
circles a few times before returning back to me again.

 

Tinkerbell love the harness I made for her. To the extent that when I did not take her out on the regular time, she would pick that up and flew over to me chastising me that I did not put it on to take her out in.

 


Now, as to that final step for people on the free flight list where you take your parrot to that first free flight in the open, do not just consider that just as one step of from step 3 . "semi freeflight in enclosed conditions" to step 4. "Freeflight in the open" just as step 3 "semi freeflight in enclosed conditions" is a step from step 2. "free flight at home"

 

Those steps are merely numbers. The chasm between step 3 and step 4 is ten times that from step 2 and step 3. Should you ever try step 3 "semi freeflight in enclosed conditions" for the first time, you will encounter pounding in your heart like never before even though you know the bird is flown in safe enclosed conditions.

 

People have free flown safely. My bird whisperer of Tsaoling, Chris Biro, Bart, Janet, Gay and a few more came to my mind. The conditions and most important, their temperament and the temperament of their flock are unique to them.

 

Harness can be a safe intermediate step between step 3 and step 4. Your parrot can be brought out to be familiar with the surroundings and to get use to the outside. With that harness on, you do not have fear in your marrow and your heart pounding away. Parrots are empaths, and your very fear of them flying away may cause them to fly away. If you take your parrot in a carrier, it will not be the same. Imagine you are a parrot and in a carrier as against you as a parrot wearing a harness. The view and perception you will have will be very different. You as the parrot will be more comfortable in that place.

 

Then if your parrot wearing the harness is given recall cues and flies back on short distance, that will further lessen the fear of your parrot and of yourself. Nothing is ever certain. But you have decrease the chances of spooking very much more by also training and getting your parrot used to the harness.

 

The choice of that final step is yours. You have her safety , and also her happiness in your hands and only you can decide if you are going to cross that Rubicon. You will only make that choice when you are ready to. You may not even need to go into step 4. Taking her out to let her fly in harness may be enough for you. Even if she is clipped, taking her out in harness and leash will give you a lot more security that not in harness amd leash at all.

 

Now, should you have removed the harness to let her fly freely, what about that lovely park in the next valley, or the lake side that you love?

 

Does it make more sense to take her there in her harness that she can fly a bit as well as the carrier cage to put her back into should it rain?

 

Or is free flight as flights in a closed warehouse or around your house only what you are contented with?

 

If your answer is no, either you are as good as Chris that you need not consider harness or you are as bad as me and think harness and leash can be your answer.

 


More important than the harness would be the training and bonding I and Tinkerbell had. I wrote that in detail, kind of road map for anyone who may
want to do what I have done.

 

I wrote of how to make safe the home environment and what you expect
from a flighted parrot at home in Tinkerbell Legacy. The URL pointer
to that is also in her home page.

 

I cannot recommend any of the harnesses that are now being sold
commercially. Even if you do not intend your bird to fly with them,
they have very serious design flaws.

 

I just list some of them.

 

1. They are stiff and uncomfortable for your bird. Even if they
tolerate the harness at the beginning, in time, they will not allow
you to put them on. I bought Kaylor harness. Tink was ok the first
time. Each time met greater and greater resistance and after 6
times, I gave up trying. Until Tink flew away on the free flight, I
had to rethink seriously harness again.

 

2. Some of the harness uses elastic which can stretch. In flight,
especially spooked flights, that may lead to their release.

 

3. The commercial harnesses relied on small teensy buckles that are
difficult to put on. It is not likely that your bird will tolerate
for long the fiddling that you need to do to put them on

 

4 . Correct fitting is of paramount importance. As CAGS ranged from 300 grams to 500+ grams, it is not possible one size fits all even just in that one species. You must size your own harness to your own bird. Or do you wish to rely on "one size fits all"?

 

4. All of them uses the spring loaded thingy wingy to latch the
leash to the harness. That may be satisfactory for dogs and cats or
even ferrets. Now, after Tink got the hang of it, she undid those
spring loaded thingy wingy in half second flat. I was walking on a
mountain road shrouded in mist when I heard that 'click' and realised
the leash was hanging down from my hand. You can read that full
account in
' More development of Tink harness during trip to Alishan mountain'
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/harness4.html

 

You do not want that happening to you. Can you allow the safety of
your beloved fids on those devices? Can you hope that they are so
much more stupid than Tink that they cannot figure out how to open
those thingy wingy?

 

I cannot but stress how shocked I am that those kind of fastenings
are used for for all harnesses for parrots

 

You need not do the design. I did the design, tested at each stage
by Tinkerbell and finally refined to the stage I can do that easily
even though I dunno how to sew.

 

All you need is either a nice thick shoelace or the soft lanyard that
you hang your mobile phone on and the high tech Dyneema braided
fishing line that I recommend using. That same fibre is used for
bullet proof vest and stronger than Kevlar. Do not use monofilament
as braided lines are much more flexible and resistant to abrasion.

 

If you are worried that your parrot or macaw or alex chew through those shoelace or lanyard, thread a couple of Dyneema fishing line through the center or the shoelace/lanyard for security.

 

I wrote on my design in detail together with URL pointers to step by
step photos. The most important part is the principle of it.

 

You may take 3 times as long as me to make that harness. But I need
10 minutes, of which much time was actually spend in photographing
the step by step. So you figure how long you need to spend.

 

If your bird is clipped and you like to take her out, you need not go
through all that I recommend for a flighted bird. No need for
recalls or prior flights in secure big space. But clicker training
is always a very good idea to train and bond with your fid even if
you have no intention of flying her.

 

But you must accustom your bird to the harness.

 

I am cutting and pasting a portion of Tinkerbell Legacy. See that
part that dealt with the harness and how to put it on.

 


Tinkerbell Legacy - Final Rant - Bringing it all together
http://www.livejournal.com/users/shanlung/5196.html

 

(if you like to read that in full, go to above URL. If you have not
done so, read the earlier rants I made on Tinkerbell Legacy dealing
from home environment to clicker training )

 

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I also thought I should bring to a conclusion the legacy of Tinkerbell.

 

I had written earlier of clicker training and of the target stick. For more details of clicker training, it is strongly advised you join either of the two clicker training groups that I mentioned before.

 

The training that you will be doing together with your charge is a long term process. It is also a daily process. It is not so much as to training but a bonding that you do with your charge. In my view, they understand you much better than you may understand them. The training should not be a mechanical process that with enough repeats, you can get them to do things immediately like clockwork. Perhaps that can be done. But ask yourself, will that be enjoyable to her? and to you? that you can proceed to do such unenjoyable procedures on a daily basis? It is far better to have a routine that both likes and look forward to. If you got a flying bird, if she does not like it, it will not be possible to make her do it. It is much more important to keep it interesting enough for her to like what you are doing with her. Many repeats one after another is not going to fit that most important requirement.

 

Life must be more than mindless rote training on either side.

 

Clicker training session with Tinkerbell consisted of maybe 25% clicker training intersperse with lots of talking and headrubs. That may be sessions of 5 to 10 minutes long and about twice or three times a day. The daily outdoor flights with her were part of the training but not considered as clicker training here.

 

With that 'touch target' technique, you are onto a lot of other tricks that you can teach her.

 

I bought those different color and shape baby toys with the thought of teaching her color and shapes. I laid them out in front of her, use the target stick to touch one of them and told her to touch target. She immediately knew it was not the stick and the block being referred to. I had visions of getting her to pick up objects by verbally telling her the color and shape and she getting that right and dropping into the container. It went so well that first session that I thought it was going to be too easy.

 

She picked up the blocks as indicated by the target stick. She got clicked and treat a few times. I placed out my hand and told her to drop it there. She walked up to my hand and placed it. She got clicked and treat. What happened was a quirk of fate. HalfTail my cat and Zorro my ferret were also let out to play on the floor and they happened to be there at that time. The block slipped from my hand and fell near HT. HT had a fright and jumped up.

 

Tinkerbell thought it was so much fun to frighten poor HT even if that first time was an accident. At the next request to pick up the block with the target stick, she did that and deliberately threw it down near HT. HT had another fright and ran away. Tink then took another block and flew to aim at HT. I got excited myself and added my emotions to the situation and Tink felt it was a great game she got on to, taking blocks and hurling at HT and Zorro.

 

That ended the attempts to teach Tink to pick up blocks. That was another reason why I felt parrots, or at least Tink is an empath able to pick up emotions. I did not feel it fair (and I was too lazy) to want to lock up HT and Zorro everytime I teach Tink. Everytime I took out the blocks, she would pick one to throw at HT or to fly with it to bomb HT. That was Tink's interpretation which I could not correct or bring myself to correct.

 

I store those blocks away. But perhaps you may have better luck with that especially if you do not have other pets around to act as distraction.

 

My main aim at that time was to get Tink to fly back to me on cue. I focused on 'touch target'. But with variations of touching the target stick. To get her to bend up and bend down and walk or fly to the target stick was too easy. I had to use more complex variations to keep her interest. You can see that in an old letter together with photos of her doing that.
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/clicker...ouchtarget.html

 


This 'touch target' was the basis of how I taught her to fly back to me on recall.
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/w8recalltraining.htm

 

The above URL is an earlier letter that I wrote on recall training. Even if your parrot does not fly as yet, you should teach them recall training even if they walk to you now. You get them into the habit of coming to you when you call them. When they can fly, it will be that much easier.

 

If your parrot do not fly now, it may be possible to get them to fly later when new flight feathers are grown. This may not be a definate thing. If your parrot had not been allowed to fledge and fly for a few weeks before the feathers were clipped and if they are many years old now, they may not even fly after the flight feathers are grown again.

 

You cannot teach them how to fly. After all, you cannot fly yourself. BUT, you can give them a very safe environment for them to practise their first flights. The first flights can be very scary for them and for yourself. It was scary for me and very painful to watch her hit the walls and slide down. If I had to do that again, I would have prepared a special room with nettings along the walls for her to cling to.

 

http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/wflyindoor1.html

 

Above URL is another earlier letter on teaching your parrot to fly indoors.

 

After your parrot is flying about inside your house and coming to you on recalls, you need to take her to fly in much bigger enclosed areas. If you live in a huge mansion, you should also take her to that bigger enclosed areas. You need to let her really stretch her wings safely and you need to gain the temperament and confidence in yourself and her. Your fear can affect her and this is a vital step before attempting harness on outside.

 

Go into Tinkerbell webpages and read all that I wrote under the main category of "Tinkerbell and her semi-free flights in large building" . You may find the mistakes I made so you need not repeat them. Most of all, you and her will have the fun of it.

 

With successful recalls in big enclosed areas, you can now think of taking her out in harness.

 

Do read what I think of harness usage in "Using Harness"
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/wUsingHarness.html

 

Your parrot must be ready to wear the harness. To wear the harness, she must allow you to stroke and touch her all over. If your parrot likes head rubs, you use that as a starting point. While giving her head rubs. extend your other fingers to stroke her back. At any point when she does not like, stop and do not go on and get back to just head rubs. Slowly, you get to stroke her wings, and under her wings, her back, and her stomach. Take it easy and as a game with her. You got many many more months and years ahead of you. Do not stress her or yourself.

 

Read all the letters I wrote on harness design. Each of those letters have been chronologically written with increment on the design but building up on earlier knowledge.

 

The very first letter setting out the principles of Tinkerbell harness is the most important of the harness letter
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/harness1.html

 

Even letters without harness in it contain matters relating to harness and touches on or was the foundation to later changes in harness.

 

The final letter on harness "Tinkerbell - Harness for Dennis" gave the photo by photo stages of the last version of Tinkerbell harness.
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/wtinkharnessdennis.htm

 

When I was out with Tinkerbell, I used two harnesses with her all the time. The first was the visible harness and line used more to reassure me that she could not spook and fly away. The second and most important harness and line is the verbal connections I maintained with her. I talked to her to reassure her and that was what kept her with me.

 

In outside recalls, and indoor recalls, or anything I need of her for that matter, I always talked with her until I felt she was ready to do that and then and only then, I gave the cue. If her eyes were not on me and mentally she not with me, I try not to cheapen the cue by using it. The cue should only be used when you know it would be effective.

 

There had been distinct times when I knew we were in mental connections (Please do not quote that con-man former magician and former escapologist Randi as if he is the final arbiter (read some of the articles I found on Randi in the links in http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/randi.html and demand I write a 'scientific paper' the way I was demanded to do after I wrote of Ivan my cat in "Tinkerbell Legacy - Start" http://www.livejournal.com/users/shanlung/1564.html
and specifically in
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/ivan1.html

 

In the late evenings with Tinkerbell been recalled from over 30 meters away, I could not see her from that distance. I talked to her for a while and somehow I knew she was with me and I gave recall cue. And at that point in time, I knew she would take flight to me. If you have played at darts, there are some shots that felt sweet and that you know will hit exactly the point that you wanted the moment that dart left your finger. There is no mistaking that feeling. When you miss the mark, you never ever get that sweet feeling.

 

I need not raise my voice in that distance, but I knew that she knew. Its just a strange mental feeling that happened in about one in every 3-4 recalls when I could not see her. Perhaps I noticed visual aspects in that distant grey on grey. Perhaps I just did know. And your choice to interprete as you like.

 

That same person demanding that I submit a 'scientific paper' mentioned that she got bitten by her parrot as she tried to take note of the pinning of the eye before the bite. Now, the eyes may pin before the bite. The eyes may also pin very quickly before the bite. BUT, before the pinning of eyes, there are so many shades of feeling that the parrot will exhibit, that she is nervous, that she is unhappy, that she is very very unhappy, then they pin the eyes and bite. It is just sad that those entire range of emotional display from a parrot can be blissfully ignored and not taken noticed of.

 

That is why I kind of insisted that you treat the parrot as friends and not something to be 'trained' and that you are the 'alpha' and commander.

 

Before that, that had been occasional times I forgot to hook the line to the harness. I am sure she knew, but she never flew off from me and I had the feeling she was amused when I realised to my fright she was not hooked. It even got to a stage that harness and hooking of line was incorporated into a verbal check with my wife before we walked out of the apartment.

 

And this is not something I encourage. In the last month before I left Taiwan, when I reached my apartment and before I go inside. I removed Tinkerbell's harness when we were in the open. That was done rather deliberately by me. She knew she was free. But she flew back to me from her motorbike perch and we walked into the apartment.

 


Warmest regards

 

Shanlung

 


http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/

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I am sorry that I cannot write in in your language. That long letter I send gave the background as to how the harness for Tinkerbell, my flying parrot, was done. I hope what I have done with Tinkerbell can be of use to people all over the world.

 

I know computer translator is not as good as human. I hope this computer translator can help you to understand what I have written

 

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

 

Maybe you have some other translator in your language that can also help in the translation.

 

The URL of long letter I wrote can also be read at
http://www.livejournal.com/users/shanlung/2005/06/10/

 

You can copy that URL into the translator and hopefully, that can be read in in your language.

 


Я огорченн что я не могу написать внутри в вашем языке. Что длиннее письмо, котор я посылаю дал предпосылку о как была сделана проводка для Tinkerbell, мой попыгай летания. Я надеюсь я делал с Tinkerbell смогите быть пользы населить во всем мире.

 

Я знаю переводчик компьютер не как хорош как человек. Я надеюсь этот переводчик компьютера может помочь вам понять я писал

 

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

 

Возможно вы имеете некоторый другой переводчика в вашем языке может также помочь в переводе.

 

Url длиннего письма, котор я написал можно также прочитать на

 

http://www.livejournal.com/users/shanlung/2005/06/10/

 

Вы можете скопировать тот url в переводчика и hopefully, то можно прочитать внутри в вашем языке.

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Tinkerbell Revisited - The photos

 


I have uploaded the photos of that last trip I made to
Taiwan to be with Tinkerbell.

 

You can find that in the webshot link in my latest
blog entry.

 

http://www.livejournal.com/users/shanlung/15686.html

 


Warmest regards

 

Shanlung

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Dear shanlung,

 

Thank you very much for your stories and photos!

 

Your Tinkerbell is charming :) and your experience is very interesting. You are a real teacher of flying for her (and she for you, may be :) ).

 

Do you interested in talking training?

 

My Grey "speacker" :artist::) , Bruno by name, has been living with us since November 1996. He has a massive "vocabulary" and most of words are used in the right moment.

 

Bruno likes to chew the boxes like Tink :him:...

 

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Best regards,

 

Elena Turzhevskaya.

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shanlung

Hello Helen,

 

I am sorry for not coming here for some time. I was busy moving photos of Tinkerbell to another websit.

 

Tinkerbell talks. Sometimes I get very frightened as she uses words to me in the context. I did not mention much of that here.

 


I have moved the photographs of Tinkerbell to Flickr.
Flickr allows many more photos in each folder. That
allowed me to include photos that showed more of the
beauty of Taiwan that I could not do earlier because
of lack of space. You can see many of the photo
folders have more than the 100 photos which were the
old limit.

 


You can find the photo folders in
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanlung/sets/

 

Flickr slideshow is also much faster, but
unfortunately, the slideshow dont show the titles and
description now. Those titles and descriptions can be
seen only on each photo when viewed.

 

Flickr also allows the inclusion of the photos into
the web pages of Tinkerbell.

 

You will find Tinkerbell webpage to be much clearer
now and with photos inserted into the articles I
written before.

 

Do check out

 

http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/

 

and the articles of the early part in

 

http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/indexbegin.html

 

I tidied up the arrangement of the articles and
navigation should be easier now.

 

The photos of Tinkerbell Revisited are also now
embedded into the Livejournal blog made on the recent
visit

 

Do check out Tinkerbell Revisited starting from
http://www.livejournal.com/users/shanlung/2005/06/21/

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Shanlung

 

http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/

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Hello, shanlung!

 

You are welcome to the "Diaries" of our site: http://mybirds.ru/forums/index.php?automodule=blog

 

Here you can diarize Tinkerbell's Diary with photos and your own commentaries.

 

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Best regards,

 

Elena Turzhevskaya.

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Hi shanlung,

 

You can also watch Helen's grey Bruno "live" at 1-й Фильм О Жако Бруно Helen T and 2-й Фильм О Жако Бруно Helen Т - both videos are shot by Helen and edited by me.

 

It's a pity you won't understand what Bruno says in Russian but believe me: he is a great contextual speaker.

 

In Video 1 (called "Who are you indeed, Bruno?") when asked about who he is Bruno insists that he is a pussy-cat.

 

In Video 2 (called "The Bird Talker") he sings and says a lot of different things: for example on seing water pouring into the washing machine he associates it with juice and when a cat passes by he offers her some juice. On Helen's request he imitates a nightingale, a tomtit and a woodpecker.

 

I wish I could find some time soon to go through your photos and articles.

 

Best regards,

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shanlung

Hello Helen and George,

 

You do not need to try to convince me that greys understand language. Let me tell you one very specific
incident with Tinkerbell. She flew around the apartment
and followed me. One day, I brought in a new blood pressure monitor and using that on myself.

 

She flew to my shoulder and watched, then she flew to the table and watched.

 

Even though I always regarded her as intelligent, I was shocked when she spoke very clearly and slowly " What are you doing" in those precise words. That made me a little frightened even though I love her very much

 

I had to explain to her what I was doing. She watched me a while more and then flew away.

 


 

The Early Tinkerbell

 


I was trying to find out exactly when Tinkerbell
fledged by trying to go through the archives.

 

I found some earlier letters I wrote during that very
early period that I placed into my blog.

 

http://www.livejournal.com/users/shanlung/2005/08/

 

Anyone thinking of total free flight might like to
read an old letter "Playing music to ducks".

 

When I re-read the letters on the series "Some
thoughts of clicker training", I remembered I was
going to put those letters into Tinkerbell's webpage
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/ into the
appropriate place but forgotten to do that entirely
placing just a letter.

 

I realised I still have some old photos of the Ghost
festival and the beautiful 2500 years old Confucious
Birthday ceremony I talked about in those letters.

 

I have uploaded those photos into the folders embedded
in the LiveJournal entries.

 

Some very early photos of Tinkerbell were also
uploaded
and can be seen in "First introductory letter on
Tinkerbell".

 

You can read in those early days how close Tinkerbell
never became Tinkerbell, the flying CAG of Taiwan.

 

http://www.livejournal.com/users/shanlung/2005/08/

 


Warmest regards

 


Shanlung

 

http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/

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Meet YingShiong the shama

 

I now have a shama called YingShiong
http://www.livejournal.com/~shanlung/2005/10/14/

 

The link is also in Tinkerbell webpage. I do not think
she will mind it. In a way, YingShiong is a gift from
Tinkerbell to me.

 


http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/

 

******************************************
What is a shama , look here
http://www.nfss.org/Birds/Species/Softbill...s/Shama-WR.html

 

For some beautiful photos of prime shama in the wild, look here
http://www.orientalbirdimages.org/search.p...lt&Bird_ID=2560
**********************************************

 

 

 

 

 

Shanlung

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Здравствулте! снова,

 

Месиво YingShiong было сделано и введено к ему. До тех пор, он не упал сверх и не умер пока еще.

 

Я делал ежедневными входами моего опыта с YingShiong мое shama в виду того что я получил его. Вы можете последовать за тем от соединения url YingShiong внутри

 

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/t...200510&lp=en_ru

 

Вы можете последовать за процессом месива делая с 2-ого -го ноября ниже.

 

http://www.livejournal.com/~shanlung/2005/11/

 

' получать, что знали вас ' отростчатые с YS закончат скоро. В этом периоде, он заколебался к мне как птица припевать starting from неделя тому назад. Он был настолько трепетн и застенчив в первых парах неделей я отчаялся на пытаться с им я сделал с Tinkerbell. Я делал с Tinkerbell может пока быть невозможно с YingShiong shama. Фотоих того колебаясь можно увидеть в

 

61533899_6b90a0edea.jpg

 

 

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanlung/sets/1329275/

 

Используйте выставку скольжения и устанавливайте на 1.5 секунды. Я буду идти в официально тренировку clicker с им теперь. Даже раньше та официально тренировка clicker, она угождает мне который 2 дня тому назад, он летал и perched на моей руке for the first time. То должно было получить его обслуживание. Но я теперь hopeful я могу получить, что

 


Hello again,

 

YingShiong mash had been made and introduced
to him. So far, he did not keel over and die as yet.

 

I have been making daily entries of my experience with
YingShiong my shama since I got him. You can follow
that from YingShiong URL link in

 

http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/

 

 

 

You can follow the mash making process from 2nd
November below.

 

http://www.livejournal.com/~shanlung/2005/11/

 

The 'getting to know you' process with YS is finishing
soon. In this
period, he hovered to me like humming bird starting
from a week ago. He was so timid and shy in the first
couple of weeks that I despaired at trying with him
what I did with Tinkerbell.

 

What I have done with Tinkerbell may yet be impossible
with YingShiong the shama.

 

61533975_d20cd31cc8.jpg

 


Photos of that hovering can be seen in
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanlung/sets/1329275/

 

Use slide show and set at 1.5 seconds.

 


I will be going into formal clicker training with
him now.

 

Even before that formal clicker training, it pleases
me that 2 days ago, he flew and perched on my hand for
the first time. That was to get his treat. But I am
now hopeful that I can get him to fly to perch and to me on cue.

 

Shanlung

 

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/t...200510&lp=en_ru

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Hello, shanlung!

 

Your work is worthy of respect. Your photos are very visual and high-quality :clap:.

 

"Mash" means "cмесь" in Russian ("месиво" is not correct, "месиво" = "slush").

 

Your English is very intelligible, but translating is causing the muddle.

 

Thank you very much :).

 

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Best regards,

 

Elena Turzhevskaya.

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shanlung

Helen,

 

Thank you.

 

Translation from one language to another can be a problem.

 

I gave myself 5 % chances of success at the beginning if I will be able to take the shama out just like what I did with Tinkerbell. I think my chances are twice as good now and is perhaps 10 % as the shama is such a shy bird.

 

You can see the latest photographs of us taken by my wife yesterday.
Yingshiong my shama trust me enough to fly to me and stand on my hand.

 

 

 

67034549_f3fd3cb9a8.jpg

 

This is the start of the process to train the bird to fly to me on cue, or what we describe as the recall.

 

Much more training must be done before he can safely be flown in the open. The recall training is the start of that long process..

 

More photos can be seen in this folder

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/shimmertje/sets/1448139/

 

The writeup to those photos can be read in

 

 

 

http://www.livejournal.com/~shanlung/2005/11/26/

 


Warmest regards

 

Shanllung

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A rescue that I am involved in

 

 

 

At about 11 am 2 Dec 2005, I received a call from my
friend CM. He was excited and explained to me he
caught a very colorful bird walking around and unable
to fly. We met up around noon to take over that bird.
I was surprised that the bird was as colourful as he
said and not exagerated at all.

 


I bought a small cage on my way back to keep that
bird safe while I try to bring him back to recovery. I
placed in water and YS mash. I dared not keep that
bird with Yingshiong and decided to quarantine it.

 


http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanlung/sets/1493533/

 

 

 

I did not know what this bird was and request from
some of the bird groups I was in an indentification
assistance. At least I need to know what this bird was
and what to feed it. I could not find that on my own

 

I received swift replies that the bird os a blue
winged pitta and that the diet is similar to the
shama.

 


My friend CM saw it in a shopping mall. The pitta was
unable to fly and was so weak as otherwise that clumsy friend of
mine would not have been able to pick him up. CM was afraid
that cats or dogs or other people could get at that poor bird.

 

My first reaction was to decline when he called me on
phone, which I did. Then I felt I could not just walk away, and
changed my mind and went downtown to get the pitta from CM as he was going
into a meeting for the whole afternoon.

 

So it was karmic destiny that the pitta is now into my
hands. I checked out and definately, the pitta was unable to
fly meaningfully.

 

69331193_66b14b664b.jpg

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanlung/sets/1493533/

 

 

 

So you understand my reluctance now to place the pitta
back in the shopping mall. Especially more so as the pitta is
weak.

 

After my morning session with YS, I checked on the
pitta again.

 

The pitta is recovering and look much better today
than yesterday after given Yingshiong mash which I thought is a good
generic first fix as I guess that bird was an insectivore prior to
identification. I thought that may be a babbler at first.

 

I did have some fears of bird flu at first. I am much
more relieved now and his former weakness might have been from lack
of food, or inappropriate food. Might have been likely to be a
captive bird not looked after properly and then abandoned to die in a
shopping mall.

 

Luckily for the pitta that I now do have some
knowledge of insectivores, a far cry from the early days when I
first came here and stood on a soapbox pleading for help.

 

I added mealworms to the mash bowl and hopefully his
strength be even better.

 

With the intensive training of YS, and as I got a
certifed killer Ivan at home, a spare room is now a temporary home for
the pitta. I do not have time for another bird or even the
facilities for another bird.

 

When he is good and strong, I probably will take it to
a more appropriate habitat and let him get on with his life.

 

(more of above written in the livejournal diary and updated daily
if you do like to follow this saga starting in

 

http://www.livejournal.com/users/shanlung/2005/12/02/

 

http://www.livejournal.com/users/shanlung/2005/12/03/

 

)

 


Shanlung

 

http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/

 

 

 

 

 


Warmest regards

 

Shanllung

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"Yingshiong first graduation photographs"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanlung/sets/1542477/

 


71744374_860e1e89aa.jpg

 


YS graduation from flight room to apartment. You see
YS flying to touch target. YS flying to my finger on
pure recall (no waving of food) when cued. Last
sequence showed YS in flurry of wings and legs but
cheating as he did not touch target

 

Best to use slideshow at 1.6 seconds

 


Read

 


http://www.livejournal.com/users/shanlung/36423.html

 


http://www.livejournal.com/users/shanlung/37171.html

 

 

 

Shanlung

 

 

 

http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/

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shanlung,

 

Thank you very much.

 

I think your own experience with shama and pitta is very interesting for the lovers of insectivorous birds at our forum.

 

Write more.

 

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Best regards,

 

Elena Turzhevskaya.

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Elena,

 

Thank you

 


You have seen that two months ago, I knew nothing about shama birds other than shama is the most shy and most timid of aviary bird and I have never kept shama in my life.

 

Yingshiong is an old shama as well, not a young bird with the best chances of being tamed or trained or to bond with.

 

I believe all that you need is the understanding and the respect for your birds and creatures to do what I have done or to do even more than what I have done.

 

I chose not to be the Master but as an equal with my bird, whether the bird is Tinkerbell or YingShiong.

 


You decide if I gained, or if I lost in the exchange.

 


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

YS more graduation photos

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanlung/sets/1549325/

 

72072163_43756e66c0.jpg

 


On Saturday Dec 10th, I managed to persuade Yingshiong to
tolerate
my wife Joy inside the flight room to take photos of
us
together.

 

The shots taken are better than the one I had taken.

 

There were three sequences of pure recall taken by Joy
standing behind me.

 

Use slide show at 1.6 to 2 seconds timing

 

Read the account in

 

www.livejournal.com/users/shanlung/2005/12/10/

 


Shanlung

 

http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/

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shanlung, thank you!..

 

Birdmania is very dangerous disease :grin:...

 

Your pets are charming...

 

Have you got some photos of Tink in green thickets?
We need in "natural" photos of African greys for illustration of the article about feeding African grey parrots in wild nature
(for the main page of our site mybirds.ru)...

 

 

 

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Best regards,

 

Elena Turzhevskaya.

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shanlung

Helen,

 

Yhank you for such nice thoughts and words.

 

Perhaps you may find some suitable photos of Tinkerbell
flying in the forests in this folder This is a photo from that folder.
You may like to chose different photos for your purpose.

 

I give you the permission to do that for any articles that
you may be writing in mybirds.ru

 

30841990_784e2a24fe_b.jpg

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanlung/sets/689264/

 

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

My friends,

 

Thank you

 

 

 

Yingshiong first entry into apartment

 

 

 

74341840_2d55446914.jpg

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanlung/sets/1596048/

 

 

 

Writeup in
http://www.livejournal.com/users/shanlung/39415.html

 

 

 


Shanlung

 

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Helen T

shanlung, thank you for expressive photo...

 

I want to ask you about Tinkerbell's daily ration.
Do you prepare soft mashes for Tink? What vitamin and mineral additionals do you apply?
Do you use the red palm oil in Tink's diet?

 

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Best regards,

 

Elena Turzhevskaya.

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shanlung
shanlung, thank you for expressive photo...

 

I want to ask you about Tinkerbell's daily ration.
Do you prepare soft mashes for Tink? What vitamin and mineral additionals do you apply?
Do you use the red palm oil in Tink's diet?

 

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Best regards,

 

Elena Turzhevskaya.

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Elena,

 

I took more trouble in cooking for Tinkerbell than cooking for myself. I do not believe in addtion of vitamins and supplements. If the diet is good and balanced , you should not add vitamins.

 

You see the formula that I used for Tinkerbell. You have seen
the many photographs of Tinkerbell and you seen the quality of
her feather and health.

 

You tell me if any vitamins or minerals need to be added
to the diet I prepared for Tinkerbell.

 

This is that letter from Part 1 Tinkerbell homepage.

 

http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/wmikemash.htm

 

I extract a portion from above

 

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Date: Thu Feb 5, 2004 12:04 pm
Subject: Re: Mike's Manna and how the heck do you make so MUCH?

 

 

 

I used Mike's formula as the basis as I could not get
all the ingredients in Taiwan and he did not offer his
kit of the dry stuff at that time I started on it more
than a year ago. Below is the URL to Mike's Manna
Mash.
http://www.birdsense.com/

 

I modified the preparation slightly especially in the
process to leach out the proteolytic enzyme inhibitors
using techniques from soybean milk preparation. I also
want the beans to swell and slightly germinate for
better nutritional value.

 

Assuming your cooking day is on wednesday evening.

 

(note: I am a bad cook and do not know cup is a précise measure.

 

The cup I use was a tea cup, and is slightly less than half of

 

The regular measuring cup. PLEASE REMEMBER THAT IN RECIPE BELOW)

 

 

 

Morning of Monday,
1 cup of soybeans
1 cup of kidney beans
1 cup of garbonzo beans
1 cup of pinto beans
1 cup of blackeye beans
1 cup of dry corn
2 cup of Great Northern white beans

 

Those are soaked in their own containers and washed
and soaked repeatedly until wednesday cooking

 

Evening of Tuesday
1 cup of red beans
1 cup of green beans
1 cup of black beans

 

Again, these are soaked and washed repeatedly until
wednesday cooking

 

On wednesday evening, about 6 cups of sweet potatoes
are cut and sliced into small pieces.

 

1 cup of barley
1 cup of glutinious rice
1 cup of red rice
1 cup of brown rice
1 cup of oats
1 cup of rolled wheat berries
2 cups of millet

 

They are all combined with the beans in a large pot
with about 1 1/2 inch of water covering them and
boiled together with a tablespoonful of wheat germ.

 

Boiling is for 25 mins with constant stirring. Fire
is turned off and the mash is left to cook and cool
for an hour.

 

A bag of frozen mix vege of carrot, beans, corn is
then mixed in.

 

That will be enough for about 6-8 weeks for
Tinkerbell.

 

That mash is then ladled into sandwich bags good for
3-4 days and stuffed into every available space in the
freezer. One bag taken out at a time to thaw in the
fridge for use and given in morning and evening. A
pot of warm water at about 40C is used to heat up the
portion.

 

Cherry tomatoes, mango, banana and carrots are blended
separately , frozen in little bags as per the mash and
a glop of that is used with the mash. That is further
garnished with chopped salad and alfalfa sprouts.

 

Tink gets also dry food, Nutri berries and an oil palm
date daily as well. Sunflower seeds are given as
treats and bribes and in random places around the
house for her to 'forage about'.

 


She also gets to join us in a few bites of sashimi,
and a bit of whatever we are having for dinner.

 

Tinks variation of Mikes Manna Mash is not as complete
as the original formula. But I do think her diet is
adequate enough for her. When I think of what I eat
and what I prepare for Tink, I feel slightly envious
of her.

 

Hope this can be of help to your fids

 

 

 

(footnotes added later by another email )

 

 

 

But some notes that beginners on mash making may find useful.

 

Try a quarter recipe first using a quarter of everything. 1 cup of
dry beans or rice can expand very drastically and many cups of beans
and rice give you many many many cups of mash. Heck! that quarter
recipe may be enough for 2 weeks or so. Stirring a small pot is also
going to be a lot easier than stirring a HUGE pot.

 

The gratification you get from seeing your fid in gobbling that mash
will inspire you to go on to half recipe and finally to the full
recipe.

 

I left out the veges (other than the frozen stuff) to minimise the
volume in the freezer opting to add that in later from chopped salad
that I can vary or add new experimental stuff. Otherwise my only
fridge become a dedicated Tinkerbell fridge with no space for my
icecreams and other human goodies that must be kept in the freezer.

 

 

 



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With warmest regards

 

Shanlung
Joy - wife, Tinkerbell - CAG & surrogate daughter

 

earlier emails and photo links on Tink -
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9

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